{"id":370308,"date":"2026-10-11T12:22:19","date_gmt":"2026-10-11T12:22:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/370308\/"},"modified":"2026-10-11T12:22:19","modified_gmt":"2026-10-11T12:22:19","slug":"families-of-9-11-victims-await-key-ruling-in-new-york-as-truther-conference-is-held-nearby-september-11-2001","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/370308\/","title":{"rendered":"Families of 9\/11 victims await key ruling in New York as truther conference is held nearby | September 11 2001"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cIt\u2019s shocking to me that we are still fighting for justice,\u201d said Terry Strada, national chair of 9\/11 Families United, whose husband, Tom, a bond broker at Cantor Fitzgerald, was killed in the north tower of the World Trade Center 25 years ago last month.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Strada began her odyssey toward justice in 2004, but last week in New York she and dozens of family members of those lost in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/september11\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">9\/11 terrorist attacks<\/a> sensed they were closer to a US court hearing their case that Islamists gained influence in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/saudiarabia\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Saudi Arabia<\/a>\u2019s government and provided aid to at least two of the 19 hijackers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Should the three Manhattan justices reject a Saudi appeal calling for the case to be dismissed on the basis of sovereign immunity and, citing the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, uphold a 2005 ruling, the case could finally come to court in the next year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">The merits of the claims have not been adjudicated. But the direction of the second circuit court of appeals judges\u2019 questions, Strada said, had given the families hope.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cIt really was a good day for us,\u201d she said afterward. \u201cThe judges asked really meaningful questions and hammered the Saudi attorneys and didn\u2019t let up. They weren\u2019t buying what the Saudis were selling.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">The case centers on the role of Omar al-Bayoumi, a Saudi national who helped find and guarantee lodgings in San Diego for the hijackers Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar more than a year before attacks. Both died when they flew American Airlines flight 77 into the Pentagon. All 59 people onboard the flight were killed, and 125 people died on the ground.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Neither of the two hijackers qualified as pilots, and, according to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.9-11commission.gov\/report\/911Report.pdf\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">9\/11 Commission Report<\/a>, they \u201cwere ill-prepared for a mission in the United States \u2026 Neither had spent any substantial time in the west, and neither spoke much, if any, English.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">But, it continued, it was plausible that the two men, or the 9\/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, would have tried to identify a friendly contact in the US, and it was unlikely they would have come \u201cwithout arranging to receive assistance from one or more individuals informed in advance of their arrival\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">In 2012, an FBI report named Fahad al-Thumairy, a Saudi Islamic affairs official and imam of a Saudi-built King Fahd mosque in Culver City, California, as having worked with al-Bayoumi. The report named another Saudi embassy official, Mussaed Ahmed al-Jarrah, who allegedly had ordered al-Bayoumi and al-Thumairy to assist the hijackers, according to the report.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">The report has long been criticized by the 9\/11 families. The commission did not have access to videos seized by UK police in the days after 9\/11 that showed al-Bayoumi in Washington DC in which he referenced a \u201cplan\u201d or a sketch of an airplane in blue ink and a mathematical equation for flight path descent rates or what lawyers for the 9\/11 families call a \u201cflight planning diagram\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">The case, if it now comes to court, turns on whether the assistance the hijackers received from al-Bayoumi and others in California was part of the al-Qaida plot.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">This is denied by all those accused. \u201cIt has never been the policy of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/saudiarabia\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Saudi Arabia<\/a> to attack its ally, the United States,\u201d said attorney Greg Rapawy, who is representing the Gulf state kingdom. He pointed out that there was \u201cno finding of direction and control\u201d and the attacks had been \u201ccompartmentalized even within al-Qaida\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">He pointed to the commission\u2019s conclusion that it found \u201cno evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded\u201d al-Qaida. \u201cSaudi did not support violent jihad, condemned terror and opposed al-Qaida,\u201d Rapaway said in court.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Last month, in a break with 9\/11 commemoration tradition, Strada said successive US administrations had \u201cwithheld evidence \u2026 broke promises, both public and private. It\u2019s been one betrayal after another.\u201d She called on Donald Trump to confront the Saudis: \u201cTell them that if they want to be friends with the USA they cannot continue to deny all of this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Over the same September weekend, a four-day conspiracist conference was being held uptown. Turning the Tide: 9\/11 25 Years Later set out to examine inconsistencies in official accounts of the attack and assert longstanding theories that the twin towers could not have collapsed merely from the impact of jetliners loaded with fuel.<\/p>\n<p><a data-ignore=\"global-link-styling\" href=\"#EmailSignup-skip-link-16\" class=\"dcr-76akua\">skip past newsletter promotion<\/a>Free newsletter |Around 2-3 times a day<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-vf9hps\">Sign up to Breaking News US<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-djbwnz\">Get the most important news as it breaks<\/p>\n<p><img src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/1791721339_430_2998.jpg\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"dcr-gx9601\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"EmailSignup-skip-link-16\" tabindex=\"0\" aria-label=\"after newsletter promotion\" role=\"note\" class=\"dcr-76akua\">after newsletter promotion<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Susie Bowham, whose father had worked on the towers\u2019 elevator electrical systems, said those attending the conference were \u201con a journey to justice and accountability\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Roger Waters, one of the co-founders of the band Pink Floyd, said 9\/11 was not \u201ca mystery\u201d and \u201cthe narrative we were all sold after 9\/11 is a huge lie, obviously\u201d, and called the 911 report \u201ca complete whitewash and everybody with an IQ above room temperature knows it\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">The 9\/11 families and the 9\/11 conspiracists arrived at approximately the same place from different directions. But they are certainly not friends.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cIt\u2019s bullshit,\u201d said Robert Kobus, who lost his sister Debbie on 9\/11. \u201cIt\u2019s what people want to think. We have identified who supported the act. The conspiracy is: what happened to the evidence that didn\u2019t make it to the 9\/11 commission? Not anything else.\u201d Strada said. \u201cEvery word that comes out of the conspiracy theorists\u2019 mouths is an insult to those murdered on 9\/11.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">A ruling that allows the case to proceed could open up discovery into other potential al-Qaida cells in Florida, New Jersey, Virginia, Phoenix and Minnesota before 9\/11. \u201cOnce we go back to court, we\u2019re going to be able to fully investigate what happened,\u201d said Brett Eagleson, who lost his father in the attacks, outside the court.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Asked how long that could take, he added: \u201cWe\u2019ve fought for 25 years so we\u2019re not stopping anytime soon.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Much depends on how the appeals panel interprets the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act. The law, which narrows the scope of sovereign immunity, was introduced by the outgoing Texas senator John Cornyn in 2015 and was vetoed by Obama, but became law after the veto was overridden by Congress.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Another question is what the al-Bayoumi videos could prove if the case ever gets to court. The official had left the US for Birmingham in the UK a year before the attacks took place. The then FBI director, Robert Mueller, <a href=\"https:\/\/irp.fas.org\/congress\/2002_hr\/092602mueller.html\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">told a joint panel<\/a> of the Senate and House intelligence committees in September 2002 that the hijackers \u201ccontacted no known terrorist sympathizers\u201d in the US.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">As the three appeals court justices wrapped up their questioning last week, Judge William Nardini said: \u201cIt\u2019s a difficult case and we will take it under advisement.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u201cIt\u2019s shocking to me that we are still fighting for justice,\u201d said Terry Strada, national chair of 9\/11&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":370309,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[9,11,10],"class_list":["post-370308","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-new-york","tag-new-york","tag-new-york-headlines","tag-new-york-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/370308","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=370308"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/370308\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/370309"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=370308"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=370308"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=370308"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}