{"id":42944,"date":"2025-11-17T22:05:22","date_gmt":"2025-11-17T22:05:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/42944\/"},"modified":"2025-11-17T22:05:22","modified_gmt":"2025-11-17T22:05:22","slug":"did-victim-stab-himself-freeze-framed-images-pivotal-as-jury-deliberates-in-staten-island-manslaughter-case","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/42944\/","title":{"rendered":"Did victim stab himself? Freeze-framed images pivotal as jury deliberates in Staten Island manslaughter case"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"5KPE7CAEVRFS5HGUHECNTFG5EU\">STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. \u2014 As jurors assigned to the Carlos Rivera manslaughter trial begin their deliberations on Monday, there are two things they\u2019ll have to consider. <\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"CEJVYYG7OBGG3NJIBYX6GRZRIE\">The first is whether it was Rivera\u2019s knife that ended up in the heart of Joel Badillo, 41, of Stapleton, on the afternoon of June 17, 2024. Or did Badillo unintentionally stab himself with his own knife as the two men fought in the street?<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"KRKGVBDFPVAK7CGFTHP7XSXIII\">If jurors decide it was Rivera\u2019s knife that killed Badillo, the next question is whether the violent scene that afternoon on a commercial block on Broad Street was an act of self-defense. <\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"42F7NYCGZFDMZMG4Y7Q7ESSWY4\">Rivera, also a Stapleton resident, is facing charges of first-degree manslaughter, criminal possession of a knife and tampering with evidence. The top count alone carries a sentence ranging from eight years to 25 years in prison, given the defendant\u2019s criminal record. <\/p>\n<p>\u2018I realize this sounds a little crazy\u2019<img fetchpriority=\"low\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Rivera manslaughter trial\" class=\"article__image-content\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/NPQHIIPDH5DTVFJIDPNM57ZIXI.JPG\"  \/>Defendant Carlos Rivera of Stapleton is shown during opening arguments on Nov.7, 2025.Steve White for the Advance\/SILive.com<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"SHIRJ4HG2FHZPNTH5FQOAQI4HM\">Defense attorney Christina Paliogiannis presented photos of the two knives collected by NYPD at the scene, while proposing that Badillo might have stabbed himself in the fracas as he was raining down blows on the defendant. <\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"IM5YAJ5LUBDZXDHCFX3WSFGPME\">She pointed to the autopsy report, which indicated a puncture wound of four to five inches, but no sign of bruising from the top of a knife\u2019s handle which often is the case in stabbings.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"CF46BACW3RAO7ETMOXHVOYUAHI\">Badillo\u2019s knife, the defense pointed out, did not have a prominent handle or \u201chilt,\u201d while Rivera\u2019s knife did.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"WOGHMMXH2ZBK7LYI33CJSSH7YI\">\u201cI realize this sounds a little crazy,\u201d said Paliogiannis in introducing the theory. \u201cBut I want you to watch this moment.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"RK5PBSGXBNFSBOEUUS4VY5ME7M\">At one point during the fight, which Paliogiannis presented to the jury as a freeze-framed image, it appeared Badillo\u2019s own knife could have made contact with his torso. <\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"XBK45RCADVGPXASGE37FPBHJWI\">Both knives used in the fight were recovered at the scene by responding police, but forensics were unable to clearly determine which knife entered Badillo, according to trial testimony by law enforcement. <\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"6BC3KRWJ7JEJTMSXWF2Q32RKLQ\">\u201cThe question isn\u2019t \u2018did he actually stab himself?\u2019\u201c said Paliogiannis. <\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"7K75JRFCMJDYVIH4M46INRDMCE\">\u201dThe question you have to answer is, \u2018have they proven to you beyond all reasonable doubt that it was Carlos\u2019 knife?\u2019\u201d <\/p>\n<p>\u2018Use common sense\u2019: Prosecution<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"GJ2UQMLLUNFIDG7GSTMDOS3MQY\">The prosecution, in countering the argument, also freeze-framed an image to present in summations. <\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"VZE4QU3YKVGGXKF6HX57NRTGWM\">In their image, Rivera is in a seated position on the street when he swings his knife up toward Badillo, appearing to make contact or nearly make contact with Badillo\u2019s chest. <\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"JY7OYRX35VDWVBX5ZS5UBLJVUI\">\u201cYou can see it for yourself right here in the video,\u201d said Assistant District Attorney Arda Ozdinc. \u201cLook at it with your own eyes and use common sense.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Self-defense or manslaughter?<img fetchpriority=\"low\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Fatal stabbing in Stapleton \" class=\"article__image-content\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/1763417121_516_F3VIA2POTRH67E5PDOSNPAEBUU.JPG\"  \/>Police investigators survey the scene of the fatal stabbing on June 17, 2024, near Broad and Gordon streets in Stapleton.Scott R. Axelrod<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"FFIXO6J3F5AIXLMYFUO6AWJZVE\">A series of surveillance videos viewed by the jury show a verbal altercation between the two men, followed by two fights that occurred minutes apart.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"PGZWNHGSDRGADPYES47WSNT6GM\">Rivera did not elaborate on what was said during the argument, but said he was shocked when Badillo drew a knife on him during the first dust-up.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"7PSA3JD42VB2ROYUVLBFZ3LLHA\">\u201cI know his kids, he knew my kids. I was angry that someone I knew so long just disregarded our relationship,\u201d Rivera <a href=\"https:\/\/www.silive.com\/crime-safety\/2025\/11\/i-just-wanted-it-to-stop-homicide-defendant-carlos-rivera-claims-self-defense-on-witness-stand.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.silive.com\/crime-safety\/2025\/11\/i-just-wanted-it-to-stop-homicide-defendant-carlos-rivera-claims-self-defense-on-witness-stand.html\">testified<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"7NAC3ZDPXFFJJDGRPZVLNPSVWM\">Rivera \u2014 who stands about 5 feet, 4 inches tall and weighs about 130 pounds \u2014 said he was trying to walk away from the first fight when he heard Badillo calling people and saying things like \u201cone way or another this ends today.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"M7W72XNR2RE2LDYICLA6DQ7K6A\">Rivera said whoever Badillo was calling was likely dangerous, based on what he said was Badillo\u2019s involvement with gangs. And that he saw Badillo using Facetime to show someone what he was wearing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"DPL7SVI3UFDM7HVYGDKH65D75Q\">Rivera said he didn\u2019t know where people were coming from, and he was scared if he ran toward his house nearby he would run into them. So, he felt attacking Badillo with a knife was the best way to end the threat.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"IWDZOYPKB5F7BOY4SQQRCNATVM\">\u201cDid Joel know where you lived?\u201d asked Paliogiannis.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"KLSFHY2C3RE25JCBLIHBDUHPME\">\u201cYes,\u201d replied Rivera.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"AL2SL5XBUNDUFMT74K36WZRVWA\">Rivera was seen in the video approaching Badillo and swinging a knife at him. But he missed, and Badillo got the better of him. The video showed Badillo then standing over Rivera in the street, raining down blows and puncture wounds with his own knife. Rivera was on his back, swinging his knife wildly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"MKMTXCIXUNFLLCIWSFYJY2ILRI\">Badillo then backed off, walked slowly about 25 feet and collapsed in front of a deli near Broad and Gordon streets. The video showed Rivera holding a stab wound on his thigh as he approached Badillo.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"7ENOBQJNFNFFNBGWIQVMAXPNJ4\">\u201cI went to try to see what was wrong,\u201d said Rivera, as he turned his head away from the video showing Badillo\u2019s collapse to the pavement.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"K6LI4BUUP5H2BOR5O3W7YOHDMU\">When asked about the knife he was carrying that day, Rivera said he took it everywhere for protection because he lived in a dangerous neighborhood. \u201cWe all carry knives for protection, myself included,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"DLJ7KI5LNBCEPDMJKRMTRCSZBI\">Finally, Paliogiannis asked what was going through his head during the second and final altercation as Badillo was punching, stabbing and kicking him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"TQN5ZZ3Q3BCZ7LR7V754XWQFME\">\u201cI just wanted it to stop,\u201d said Rivera. \u201cI had plans that day, I just wanted to see my kids.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u2018You chose to fight\u2019 <img fetchpriority=\"low\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Rivera manslaughter trial\" class=\"article__image-content\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/OLNI4FJ33NANZHZXAH5AUE6XYQ.JPG\"  \/>Assistant District Attorney Arda Ozdinc worked to discredit the defense&#8217;s evidence Thursday in the ongoing Carlos Rivera manslaughter trial, while cross-examining their expert witness.(Steve White for the Advance\/SILive.com)<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"JVX6XWRYYZGLHAGBP3NMXQMPUY\">Prosecutors have argued that if Rivera was scared of Badillo, he had the opportunity to run home rather than cross back over the street to fight him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"B2EVH72NRBAPBKDV47Q7THXQAA\">During cross examination Friday, Ozdinc pointed to the moment Rivera crossed back over the street and swung a knife at Badillo, rather than walking in a different direction.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"JK7W2RKWGVGWLNX3UQYLTKNWEE\">\u201cSo you chose to fight?\u201d questioned Ozdinc.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"T7TFVIJD7NB5VEQDOKG5U7YM3I\">\u201cAt this particular moment, yes,\u201d replied Rivera, who insisted it was the best choice to avoid being hunted down by Badillo\u2019s friends.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"FW7HPB7KTVBO7MGQMBYJNA6OT4\">Ozdinc then froze a portion of the video as the second fight was unfolding. \u201cWould you say you were in an aggressive stance there?\u201d he asked.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"NZDQFL7EKNDV7BLVKVIPHUKW7A\">After a brief pause, Rivera replied, \u201cYes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"GD5XY3H7SVEWVIMUGTDPFXX66A\">\u201cAnd Joel is in a defensive stance?\u201d asked Ozdinc, who took a firm tone with the defendant throughout.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"CXNQCPLM4JF3PABWRLYLPLI73E\">\u201cYes,\u201d replied Rivera.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"NV3NDG5XHBHNDKMRVX2AH3DYNY\">\u201cWere you mad you had just lost a fight?\u201d poked Ozdinc, referring to the first fight down the block.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"FSEQCVSDJNC4TAZFFXEOPONULU\">\u201cIt wasn\u2019t a fight, he stabbed me,\u201d said Rivera.<\/p>\n<p>Once friends from similar backgrounds<img fetchpriority=\"low\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Rivera manslaughter trial\" class=\"article__image-content\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/MVDKZK6YUVEYVH6DNHIPYQZT3Y.JPG\"  \/>Closing arguments were held Monday in the 2024 manslaughter case of Carlos Rivera, who is represented at trial by the Legal Aid Society, including defense attorney Christina Paliogiannis, pictured right. (Steve White for the Advance\/SILive.com)<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"744VKXORNVGLBKN4B4BVLVMALA\">Both Rivera and Badillo have roots in Puerto Rico, but spent much of their lives in and around Stapleton. Both have large, seemingly tight-knit families.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"I42DOL3NTZAD7BO6F6O5K55BHE\">On Facebook, Badillo\u2019s mother at one point posted that God would provide justice for her son. Her feed was flooded with photos of children and grandchildren.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"7UYANI2SNRAOVB2KYFYNO2BUKM\">Moments after the fatal street fight, as police arrived, Badillo\u2019s adult son arrived to the scene distraught. Police had to hold him back from the crime scene.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"7CF2AHF3HBEC7K2HKVNRMELHTA\">Rivera, 38, also has children.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"FMT4K6DZ3VFQZF7AJQRAR2N7UM\">On the witness stand Friday, he said he assumed many of the parenting responsibilities, including parent-teacher conferences. He said he was working at the time in construction and as a mechanic.<\/p>\n<p>Friendship complicated by drugs, gangs<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"GJT3XH5CSVHHFLEY3KHGRIQZAY\">Rivera said he first met Badillo about 20 years ago, when they were both battling substance abuse and would use together.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"FFWRZ7DQ65AQ3DFIOAILNLI34A\">In 2016, they were both convicted as part of a drug investigation on Staten Island dubbed \u201cOperation Hit the Town.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"AH6XBAYL35A67GG2HCCIOVVPCU\">It was around that same time that Badillo and other co-defendants in the case were in a crowded holding cell, when they jumped a man and fractured his skull, according to Rivera\u2019s testimony Friday.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"7PEU7GBTKBDKDKUVYATGYBL2BY\">Rivera \u2014 also known as \u201cShorty\u201d among friends and neighbors in Stapleton \u2014 said Badillo told him about the assault weeks later, describing it as a gang initiation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"F5SU6NUNQ5HO5NK2NMZYKN77ZU\">\u201cThey were trying to recruit me,\u201d recalled Rivera. \u201cI\u2019ve never been into gangs.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"MC4VRWCGDRBSJCQOBO7JBPQDDI\">The two men had a falling out in 2022, which Rivera did not elaborate on. He testified that on the day of the stabbing, the disagreement was petty. <\/p>\n<p class=\"article__paragraph article__paragraph--left\" id=\"6FO6UFVN3JGDBPZFXTKWBCEFN4\">According to Rivera, he was walking with a friend that day on Broad Street, when the friend spotted Badillo and crossed the street to see him. Rivera claimed he was in a hurry and tried to pull their mutual friend away from the conversation, which angered Badillo.<\/p>\n<p>If you purchase a product or register for an account through a link on our site, we may receive compensation. 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