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Do you think the Penguins realistically have the assets to even pull off such a trade?
Do you think the Penguins realistically have the assets to even pull off such a trade?
And if they do, is this something that they should be kind of dabbling in at this point, given where they’re at in, in their retool and just where they’re at in the playoff race too?
And if they do, is this something that they should be kind of dabbling in at this point, given where they’re at in, in their retool and just where they’re at in the playoff race too?
I mean, I would love to have Jason Robertson on this team anytime you can acquire, you know, a player that can score goals the way that he can.
I mean, I would love to have Jason Robertson on this team anytime you can acquire, you know, a player that can score goals the way that he can.
Sign me up every time, and the Penguins will have more than enough cap space to sign him to his next extension.
Sign me up every time, and the Penguins will have more than enough cap space to sign him to his next extension.
I mean, that’s not gonna be a problem at all, Kelsey.
I mean, that’s not gonna be a problem at all, Kelsey.
I mean, they have– gonna have upwards of fifty million of cap space, so that’s not a problem.
I mean, they have– gonna have upwards of fifty million of cap space, so that’s not a problem.
You know, he fits this team like a glove.
You know, he fits this team like a glove.
The problem is the cost to acquire, because I think the Stars are– would ask for a lot.
The problem is the cost to acquire, because I think the Stars are– would ask for a lot.
You know, people probably are gonna wonder why is he potentially available, because I do think the Stars are obviously gonna take a run at this re-signing him.
You know, people probably are gonna wonder why is he potentially available, because I do think the Stars are obviously gonna take a run at this re-signing him.
They have a lot of contracts on the books, and they may not be able to potentially fit him in there.
They have a lot of contracts on the books, and they may not be able to potentially fit him in there.
If I were the Stars, I would do any, everything in my power to fit him in, considering how good of a player he is.
If I were the Stars, I would do any, everything in my power to fit him in, considering how good of a player he is.
But the cost to acquire, I think, just might be a little too rich for the Penguins.
But the cost to acquire, I think, just might be a little too rich for the Penguins.
I think there’s other teams out there that can offer a bit more.
I think there’s other teams out there that can offer a bit more.
Like, I like where the Penguins prospect pipeline is going, but it’s still not close to a finished product.
Like, I like where the Penguins prospect pipeline is going, but it’s still not close to a finished product.
So you do have to be careful.
So you do have to be careful.
Now, if you can swing together an offer that’s, you know, you not getting fleeced or, you know, you’re not emptying the cupboard or anything like that, okay, then that’s perfect.
Now, if you can swing together an offer that’s, you know, you not getting fleeced or, you know, you’re not emptying the cupboard or anything like that, okay, then that’s perfect.
‘Cause I, again, I love Robertson a-as a player.
‘Cause I, again, I love Robertson a-as a player.
But I just don’t want them, you know, putting together something where, you know, you’re trading two firsts and, you know, your top prospect.
But I just don’t want them, you know, putting together something where, you know, you’re trading two firsts and, you know, your top prospect.
Like, Ben Kindle’s not going back, an example, but, you know, someone outside of him.
Like, Ben Kindle’s not going back, an example, but, you know, someone outside of him.
So you do have to be careful, but it makes sense why the Penguins would want him considering his age, considering what he does.
So you do have to be careful, but it makes sense why the Penguins would want him considering his age, considering what he does.
He’s someone that could potentially speed this up.
He’s someone that could potentially speed this up.
You can have him for a long time, kinda have, you know, one of those players who’s a quote unquote cornerstone.
You can have him for a long time, kinda have, you know, one of those players who’s a quote unquote cornerstone.
The, the job would still not be close to finished, but still, I’d love to have him.
The, the job would still not be close to finished, but still, I’d love to have him.
It’s just that I think the cost to acquire is potentially going to be a bit much.
It’s just that I think the cost to acquire is potentially going to be a bit much.
That’s how I see it.
That’s how I see it.
Yeah, and I think it’s interesting too because, you know, i-if, if you’ve been kind of pay-paying attention to the rumors surrounding Robertson and what Dallas’ ask is, you know, they’re not really interested in picks and prospects.
Yeah, and I think it’s interesting too because, you know, i-if, if you’ve been kind of pay-paying attention to the rumors surrounding Robertson and what Dallas’ ask is, you know, they’re not really interested in picks and prospects.
They want roster players.
They want roster players.
they want, you know, roster players that won’t come in as expensive a-as Robertson.
they want, you know, roster players that won’t come in as expensive a-as Robertson.
and, you know, you’d think that even if roster players are thrown in, there’s gonna be a first-round pick thrown in.
and, you know, you’d think that even if roster players are thrown in, there’s gonna be a first-round pick thrown in.
That’s a no-brainer.
That’s a no-brainer.
you know, there’s gonna be multiple moving parts to this, but a part of me wonders too, you know, we’ve seen a lot of three-team trades, the past couple of seasons.
you know, there’s gonna be multiple moving parts to this, but a part of me wonders too, you know, we’ve seen a lot of three-team trades, the past couple of seasons.
Of course, the big blockbuster trade to bring Erik Karlsson to Pittsburgh was a three-team trade.
Of course, the big blockbuster trade to bring Erik Karlsson to Pittsburgh was a three-team trade.
Obviously, with the new rules surrounding retention and everything with the new CBA, it might be a little bit trickier to, to execute those kinds of big trades.
Obviously, with the new rules surrounding retention and everything with the new CBA, it might be a little bit trickier to, to execute those kinds of big trades.
But, I mean, I can see a scenario where a third team gets involved and, you know, that’s where the picks and prospects go.
But, I mean, I can see a scenario where a third team gets involved and, you know, that’s where the picks and prospects go.
And, you know, that’s, that’s ki- there’s a lot, could be a lot of moving parts there.
And, you know, that’s, that’s ki- there’s a lot, could be a lot of moving parts there.
but in general, I’m in agreeance with you.
but in general, I’m in agreeance with you.
I just think this is something Jason Robertson is a player that you pay up for, like any team should pay up for.
I just think this is something Jason Robertson is a player that you pay up for, like any team should pay up for.
This is a guy that if you’re gonna sell, you know, a valuable asset, if you’re gonna sell a valuable player on your current roster, this is a guy you trade for.
This is a guy that if you’re gonna sell, you know, a valuable asset, if you’re gonna sell a valuable player on your current roster, this is a guy you trade for.
there’s no secret there.
there’s no secret there.
I’m gonna– I, I love Robertson as well.
I’m gonna– I, I love Robertson as well.
He’s one of my favorite players to watch outside of Pittsburgh.
He’s one of my favorite players to watch outside of Pittsburgh.
but, you know, it-it’s, you have to kind of tread careful water here- Yeah if you’re Kyle Dubas too, because it’s exciting that the Penguins are doing well this year.
but, you know, it-it’s, you have to kind of tread careful water here- Yeah if you’re Kyle Dubas too, because it’s exciting that the Penguins are doing well this year.
I think it’s also agreed upon that I don’t wanna say it’s unexpected, but it kinda is somewhat unexpected.
I think it’s also agreed upon that I don’t wanna say it’s unexpected, but it kinda is somewhat unexpected.
Maybe the organizational expectation was a bit different than what outside expectations were going into this season.
Maybe the organizational expectation was a bit different than what outside expectations were going into this season.
But given all that, you know, I do kinda look back on Dubas’ comments at the end of last season and kind of picking up what he’s putting down, and he has said that they’re in the execution phase of this rebuild.
But given all that, you know, I do kinda look back on Dubas’ comments at the end of last season and kind of picking up what he’s putting down, and he has said that they’re in the execution phase of this rebuild.
And I think part of that execution phase is going to be taking very calculated, but a few big swings like this that could really, you know, speed up that process.
And I think part of that execution phase is going to be taking very calculated, but a few big swings like this that could really, you know, speed up that process.
And we’re not talking about a guy who’s 30 years old.
And we’re not talking about a guy who’s 30 years old.
You know, this guy’s still twenty-six years old, still a young player.
You know, this guy’s still twenty-six years old, still a young player.
He’s still got five to seven good seasons left in him, you know.
He’s still got five to seven good seasons left in him, you know.
it, this isn’t somebody that’s gonna be a temporary bridge for when Sidney Crosby retires.
it, this isn’t somebody that’s gonna be a temporary bridge for when Sidney Crosby retires.
You know, he can be here for the now and for the next phase.
You know, he can be here for the now and for the next phase.
As you said, they have more than enough cap space to execute it, so that’s not an issue.
As you said, they have more than enough cap space to execute it, so that’s not an issue.
but, you know, you look at it maybe too, the Penguins are pretty high on some of the prospects that they’ve already drafted.
but, you know, you look at it maybe too, the Penguins are pretty high on some of the prospects that they’ve already drafted.
I don’t think they expected Will Worcoff to be where he is this season.
I don’t think they expected Will Worcoff to be where he is this season.
You know, Ben Kindle has made a huge impact on the NHL roster and potentially on the trajectory, of this team for the next couple years.
You know, Ben Kindle has made a huge impact on the NHL roster and potentially on the trajectory, of this team for the next couple years.
So maybe they’re just, they think organizationally that they’re in a better spot, and they feel good enough and confident enough to be able to go after a big fish like this and sacrifice some of those future assets, because that’s something else.
So maybe they’re just, they think organizationally that they’re in a better spot, and they feel good enough and confident enough to be able to go after a big fish like this and sacrifice some of those future assets, because that’s something else.
You know, the Penguins wouldn’t be collecting all these assets if they didn’t plan to use them at some point.
You know, the Penguins wouldn’t be collecting all these assets if they didn’t plan to use them at some point.
Right.
Right.
They’re not gonna use all of those first, second, and third-round draft picks to draft players.
They’re not gonna use all of those first, second, and third-round draft picks to draft players.
And there’s also the possibility too, you know, they want a roster player in return.
And there’s also the possibility too, you know, they want a roster player in return.
You give them a Rickard Rakell, you give them a Rucker McGory, you give them a first rounder, you know, and then you’re starting to look at a package that might make a little bit more sense.
You give them a Rickard Rakell, you give them a Rucker McGory, you give them a first rounder, you know, and then you’re starting to look at a package that might make a little bit more sense.
Yeah, you don’t wanna lose a guy like Rucker McGory, but for Jason Robertson, you lose a guy like Rucker McGory.
Yeah, you don’t wanna lose a guy like Rucker McGory, but for Jason Robertson, you lose a guy like Rucker McGory.
You know what I’m saying?
You know what I’m saying?
So it’s just kinda, it’s, they have to be careful though.
So it’s just kinda, it’s, they have to be careful though.
It has to be the right package.
It has to be the right package.
They can’t overpay too, too much.
They can’t overpay too, too much.
Right.
Right.
And it has to make sense for the trajectory of the team in the next several years.
And it has to make sense for the trajectory of the team in the next several years.