{"id":237557,"date":"2026-07-07T15:26:17","date_gmt":"2026-07-07T15:26:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/237557\/"},"modified":"2026-07-07T15:26:17","modified_gmt":"2026-07-07T15:26:17","slug":"the-exit-interview-rabbi-hazzan-jeffrey-myers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/237557\/","title":{"rendered":"The exit interview: Rabbi Hazzan Jeffrey Myers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A rabbi often associated with tragedy, resilience and the aftermath of horror is leaving Pittsburgh. Rabbi Hazzan Jeffrey Myers, Tree of Life Congregation\u2019s rabbi and a survivor of the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, is retiring on July 31. His upcoming departure marks a new beginning. For the first time in 49 years, Myers, an ordained cantor and rabbi who began teaching Hebrew school in 1977, will not hold a professional Jewish post. Though he\u2019ll finish out his two-year stint as<a href=\"https:\/\/jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com\/psalm-enchanted-evening-interfaith-voices-join-in-song-at-cantors-assembly-gathering\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> president of the Cantors Assembly<\/a>, Myers, 70, said the majority of his time post- retirement will be dedicated to writing a book, seeing the bimah from the pews and visiting with his 3-year-old granddaughter. Before beginning this next phase of his life, Myers spoke with the Chronicle.<\/p>\n<p>This interview has been edited for length and clarity.<\/p>\n<p>Congratulations on your upcoming retirement. Before we talk about the future, let\u2019s talk about the past. Tell me about joining Tree of Life 10 years ago. <\/p>\n<p>At the time I was in the process of looking for a new pulpit, and the opportunity was available here. We just began with, as I think in most congregations, exploratory conversations with leadership search committees and it just continued on. I recall saying to my wife at the time, \u201cPittsburgh? I have no idea what Pittsburgh is. I know it\u2019s out there, but I have no idea.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Until that point you\u2019d spent your career on the East Coast. What were your initial impressions of Pittsburgh? <\/p>\n<p>I remember when I was picked up at the airport the first time. They detoured and we went up to Mount Washington to take in the view. It\u2019s stunning. Subsequently, anybody that comes here, I\u2019ll drive them up there. Really, there\u2019s no view like it. The other thing is I tried to read up on the history here to some degree to get a better sense of community \u2014 so kudos to the Jewish Chronicle for their archives. I read quite a bit there.<\/p>\n<p>You began working in Pittsburgh on Tisha B\u2019Av 2016. What did you discover about the community after moving here? <\/p>\n<p>I was immediately pleased that there was a communal Tisha B\u2019Av program. It\u2019s not as easy to have a fulsome minyan for summer observances like Tisha B\u2019Av, and the fact that the Conservative and Reform community \u2014 collectively in Squirrel Hill \u2014 recognized that and did something about it, I thought was good. That\u2019s not always the case in communities. I thought that\u2019s a really great way to start. Similarly, I was really impressed by the Shavuot-o-thon [Tikkun Leil Shavuot]. Every range of the Jewish community is present. We\u2019re able to ignore any differences we may have to <a href=\"https:\/\/jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com\/study-eat-repeat-tikkun-leil-shavuot-returns-for-night-of-communal-learning-and-cheesecake\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">gather together to study Torah<\/a> \u2014 and by Torah, not just the narrow but the wide sense. That\u2019s really impressive.<\/p>\n<p>Tree of Life dates to 1864. What was your sense of the congregation? <\/p>\n<p>Early on we worked to rebuild the volunteer infrastructure. That became my No. 1 priority. Actually, during the High Holidays of 2018 I gave an appeal \u2014 but not for money, it was for time, which to me is the most valuable commodity people have these days. We never have enough time. We always seem to have $1 here and $1 there, but time is something people just don\u2019t have enough of. I appealed to the congregation for time. Everyone got an envelope with two red stickers, and I asked people to pledge their time by putting a sticker next to something on a list of priorities that resonated with them. That was the High Holiday sermon for the first day of Rosh Hashanah. The envelopes were all collected, they were sorted and divided up into different units. Then Oct. 27 came.<\/p>\n<p>Walk me through that. <\/p>\n<p>I came to realize that that\u2019s why God sent me here. I thought after having served my first year, that it was to address what I thought were the pressing needs. What I came to realize \u2014 and I don\u2019t think God ever really communicated to me, even though I\u2019ve asked him why me \u2014 but this is what God wanted me to do. That doesn\u2019t mean I didn\u2019t, and don\u2019t, regularly ask God, question God, look for God\u2019s guidance; but for whatever the reasons, God wanted me to be the one here. I can\u2019t say I enthusiastically accepted the call. I did it with much regret that that needed to be the case, but it was.<\/p>\n<p>What do you mean \u2018with much regret?\u2019 <\/p>\n<p>That there needed to be a call for someone to be here, to serve a totally different set of needs. It\u2019s easy, I think, for us to blame God for all the bad that happens in life. I\u2019ve never had that attitude, so that\u2019s never changed. We know in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sefaria.org\/Pirkei_Avot.3.15?lang=bi\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Pirkei Avot<\/a> that everything is preordained, but there\u2019s freedom of choice, so God does not intercede in preordination, just God knows, it\u2019s going to happen. God\u2019s the one we turn to \u2014 as I continue to do every day \u2014 for strength and guidance. The shooter had freedom of choice. He chose badly.<\/p>\n<p>Tell me about your choices in the aftermath of the shooting. <\/p>\n<p>There were really two crystal clear choices for me: one was to drown my sorrows in a bottle of liquor and just fade away \u2014 and I don\u2019t think anyone would have looked askance at me \u2014 and say \u2018I can\u2019t do this,\u2019 and leave. I can\u2019t tell you what drove me to not make that choice, other than God. This is why I was here. The question is what do you do with that mantle of responsibility? I accepted that God foisted that upon me, and I\u2019m not going to be like Jonah \u2014 getting in a moving van and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sefaria.org\/Jonah.1?lang=en\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">going to Tarshish<\/a>. I accept it and I will continue to do what I can, no matter\u00a0 where I am.<\/p>\n<p>You speak pretty certainly about God\u2019s decision-making process. Why do you think God selected you for this path?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I think only God can answer that one. I really don\u2019t have an answer per se because\u00a0 there\u2019s no \u2014 shall we say \u2014 preparation work. I like to think that the experiences\u00a0 lived all prior years, perhaps in some way, could offer elements of training in terms of things that you\u2019re expected to do, that you\u2019ve never done before, that you don\u2019t\u00a0 know that you have the ability to do.<\/p>\n<p>Could you tell me more? <\/p>\n<p>The metaphor I\u2019ve used is there\u2019s a big red toolbox. You open the lid, it\u2019s got that black tray where you pull those little parts. I have no idea what to do with them, but if you pick up the tray you see there\u2019s the hacksaw or the spare blade. You pick it up and discover, \u201cWow, I got stuff in the toolbox I didn\u2019t even know I had.\u201d\u00a0 Psychologists call that discovery post-traumatic growth, and what they mean is after you suffered a trauma like we in Pittsburgh have, the <a href=\"https:\/\/jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com\/becoming-rabbi-myers\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">trajectory of your life<\/a> beyond that is you discover things that you didn\u2019t know that you could do, that you can do.<\/p>\n<p>Can we talk about your journey since Oct. 27, 2018? <\/p>\n<p>Healing will never be fully realized. I don\u2019t think it ever can be. In a case like this, we will be continually healing. I\u2019d like to think that if you look from 30,000 feet, the trajectory of healing is like on an xy-plane, it continues to go upward, but if you can put it under a microscope, it looks like an oscilloscope, peaks and valleys, peaks and valleys, peaks and valleys, over the course of every single day.<\/p>\n<p>Your role in the healing journey is as both a survivor and someone tasked with shepherding a community. Can we speak about that? <\/p>\n<p>The unique nature of me being a survivor, and then also being called upon to pastor the congregation, is like that image of justice with the two scales: Sometimes it\u2019ll be heavy in one direction, and then sometimes it\u2019s in the other. The scales I think are <a style=\"background-color: #ffffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com\/looking-ahead-tree-of-life-ends-one-chapter-and-begins-another\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">always going up and down<\/a>. There\u2019ll be moments when I need to step back and just give attention to good self-care, and there are moments when you\u2019re entangled in doing both simultaneously. Again, because there\u2019s no guidebook, you just have to have faith in God and trust your instinct to do what it\u2019s telling you to do.<\/p>\n<p>You mention that there was \u201cno guidebook.\u201d How did you make it through the first days and what helps you now? <\/p>\n<p>I found just in the overall set of years my colleagues have been so supportive, encouraging, complimentary. I\u2019m grateful that they\u2019ve been there to hold me up, kind of like in the Torah, when Israel\u2019s in battle, and Moses can\u2019t keep his arms up anymore he gets help. Whether it\u2019s been rabbinic and <a href=\"https:\/\/jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com\/music-prayer-and-community-cantors-assembly-makes-pittsburgh-debut\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">cantorial colleagues<\/a> doing that, or my own congregants doing that, or communal leaders, or not even community leaders, just <a href=\"https:\/\/jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com\/nearly-200-gather-to-strengthen-hindu-jewish-bonds-at-monroeville-temple\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ordinary decent folk here in Pittsburgh<\/a> \u2014 of which there are so many \u2014 all doing that. To me I think that\u2019s the most beautiful part of Pittsburgh.<\/p>\n<p>What comes next for you?<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019re moving to New Jersey because we want to be near our granddaughter, who\u2019s 3, and to be in her life. To us, the most critical thing is family. We love Pittsburgh, we would stay here, but a six-hour drive, that\u2019s too much. I\u2019m not moving to another pulpit, I\u2019m retiring from the pulpit world. Does that mean I might not be engaged on a High Holiday or something like that? Anything\u2019s possible. I\u2019m open to what possibilities might exist. I\u2019m also looking forward to writing a book with <a href=\"https:\/\/jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com\/south-carolina-pastor-comforts-rabbi-and-community\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Pastor Eric Manning<\/a> [of Mother Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, South\u00a0 Carolina] on our shared journeys, because they are so similar. We\u2019re on that same path together, but it\u2019s not like we\u2019re in separate cars. <a href=\"https:\/\/jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com\/friendship-trust-and-combating-racism\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">He and I are in the same car<\/a>. We speak regularly. Our trajectories are the same. To write about that \u2014 that shared journey \u2014 to think about how do we find hope, and how might we teach America how to find hope, that\u2019s a commodity that\u2019s missing.<\/p>\n<p>Do you feel like your work here is done?<\/p>\n<p>I believe that the mission God wanted me to do has reached a conclusion. There will always be healing, but I believe we\u2019re on a trajectory that we understand enough about it to be able to look out for each other and promote it. That doesn\u2019t mean that there won\u2019t be two-steps-back moments, but in the overall scheme of things I think we\u2019re moving in a positive way to promote healing. And I think that that\u2019s what God wanted me to do. I think that healing will still continue in the background \u2014 that switch never gets turned off \u2014 but <a href=\"https:\/\/jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com\/tree-of-life-congregation-welcomes-nearly-50-new-families-as-it-plots-its-future\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">there are other things<\/a> simultaneously for Tree of Life to look into as it moves into its 163rd year, and I believe that it\u2019s poised to continue to be a tree of life to all who hold fast to it.<\/p>\n<p>Rabbi Myers, thank you for your time and insights. What do you want the takeaway to be?<\/p>\n<p>He tried his best.<\/p>\n<p>What do you mean?<\/p>\n<p>As an educator, I\u2019ve always had the approach when it came to b\u2019nei mitzvah\u00a0 training, we have this expectation of perfection, which is so unrealistic and unfair. I\u2019ve always said to kids, if your best is an 89 and you achieve an 89 that day then I say, \u201cCongratulations, I\u2019m so proud of you.\u201d As I grade myself, whatever that number is, I gave my best and I\u2019ll let everyone else give their score. Whatever that number is, I accept it. I recognize I\u2019m human. I make mistakes \u2014 because that\u2019s the nature of being human \u2014 but I accept whatever that score is. As much as you want that one day not to define you, it did, so I accept it. That\u2019s what was foisted upon me. And OK, I can only say upon reflection, I did my best. I\u2019ll let historians determine what kind of legacy that is to be. PJC<\/p>\n<p>Adam Reinherz can be reached at <a href=\"https:\/\/jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com\/the-exit-interview-rabbi-hazzan-jeffrey-myers\/mailto:areinherz@pittsburghjewishchronicle.org\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">areinherz@pittsburghjewishchronicle.org<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"A rabbi often associated with tragedy, resilience and the aftermath of horror is leaving Pittsburgh. 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