{"id":51149,"date":"2025-12-03T15:57:07","date_gmt":"2025-12-03T15:57:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/51149\/"},"modified":"2025-12-03T15:57:07","modified_gmt":"2025-12-03T15:57:07","slug":"rob-lawless-and-his-10000-friends","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/51149\/","title":{"rendered":"Rob Lawless and his 10,000 Friends"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>On any given weekday morning, while most of us are dodging calendar invites for another work meeting that probably doesn\u2019t have to be a meeting, Rob Lawless is eagerly logging on to yet another video call.<\/p>\n<p>Listen to the audio edition here:<\/p>\n<p>It might be with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/CqYlf3_Pp_B\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">a 25-year-old Penn State University student<\/a> who survived childhood cancer. Or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/BOQlji3BeR2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">a 61-year-old former construction worker<\/a> who found God after being electrocuted. Or, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/CN8MA6xreMJ\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">a 33-year-old who dedicated his life to creating a muscular dystrophy drug<\/a> for his younger brother. Lawless has taken each of these meetings, and thousands more in person and online, over the last decade. Since 2015, he has dedicated about three hours a day to meeting strangers, all in pursuit of a single, improbable goal: to have 10,000 one-on-one conversations with someone he\u2019s never met before.<\/p>\n<p>He\u2019s reached more than 7,000 so far (7,296 to be exact; I\u2019ll be 7,297 later today). And the project \u2014 equal parts human connection experiment, endurance test, and personal mission \u2014 has taken him through a global pandemic, across multiple continents, and into a new career as a keynote speaker. It has also revealed a solution to what he believes to be the true crisis of our era: finding genuine connection in an age of loneliness and AI.<\/p>\n<p> \u201cIf one person can change the trajectory of your life \u2026\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Lawless, 34, first saw the impact that a chance encounter could have when, as a freshman at Penn State, he met a junior named Brett. The pair were on the dance marathon team together, and Brett mentioned that he thought Lawless would make a good tour guide. Lawless initially wrote off the suggestion, but Brett continued to follow up until he eventually convinced Lawless to go for it. Lawless applied, got in, and quickly became close friends with his cohort of guides. They stayed his best friends throughout his four years of college and remain his close friends to this day.<\/p>\n<p>After he graduated from Penn State, Lawless struggled to find connection and community. He longed for the familiarity of seeing friendly faces on campus \u2014 knowing that he knew their stories, and they knew his.<\/p>\n<p>This is more than just a consequence of aging. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gse.harvard.edu\/ideas\/usable-knowledge\/24\/10\/what-causing-our-epidemic-loneliness-and-how-can-we-fix-it\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Loneliness, especially among men and Gen Z, has surged<\/a> \u2014 former Surgeon General Vivek Murtha <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hhs.gov\/sites\/default\/files\/surgeon-general-social-connection-advisory.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">called it an epidemic<\/a> in 2023, noting that one in two American adults reported feeling lonely in a survey. The effects go beyond just feeling bad; it can lead to a greater risk of heart disease, anxiety and premature death. Especially since the Covid-19 pandemic, meeting people feels harder. Online life has replaced real-world community. And AI raises new questions about what makes us human.<\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/thephiladelphiacitizen.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/100-Year-Old-Ruth.png\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-95728\" alt=\"\" width=\"660\" height=\"546\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/100-Year-Old-Ruth.png\"\/><\/a>Lawless with 100-year-old new friend, Ruthe Kabler. <\/p>\n<p>For Lawless, loneliness prompted him to think about Brett who, in introducing him to a friend group, completely changed the trajectory of his social life. \u201cI was just very curious,\u201d Lawless says. \u201cIf one person can change the trajectory of your life, what happens when you go out and meet 10,000 different people?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This question led Lawless to start his ambitious project,<a href=\"https:\/\/www.robs10kfriends.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\"> Rob\u2019s 10k Friends,<\/a>\u00a0in November 2015. At the time, he was working full time as a consultant for the software startup RJMetrics. Eight months after he started 10k Friends, however, the company was acquired and Lawless was laid off. Rather than look for a new job, Lawless wondered if he could take his project full time.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019d minored in entrepreneurship and I\u2019ve always been interested in creating my own path,\u201d he says. \u201cAnd, to me, the dream [was] to just be able to meet new people all the time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p> \u201cA blessing in disguise\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Slowly but surely, his gamble paid off. Over the past 10 years, Lawless has lived in three different states. He started a new career (more on that later). He received a ton of press (<a href=\"https:\/\/thephiladelphiacitizen.org\/rob-lawless-walking-with-strangers\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">The Philadelphia Citizen first covered Rob\u2019s project in May 2016,<\/a>\u00a0when he had only met up with 65 people). And, he got to learn and explore. Each meeting he had was not only an opportunity to get to know a new person, but an opportunity to find a new (to him at least) corner of Philadelphia.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOh, man, like 90 percent of what I know about the city I discovered through this project!\u201d he gushes. \u201cCira Green, The Global Dye Works building, The Making Worlds Cooperative Bookstore &amp; Social Center, Orkney Park, the roofs of some buildings, the Enterprise Center in West Philly (where they used to film American Bandstand!) \u2026 [even] the apartment unit I now live in!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEvery person that you meet is a gift, and you never know what you\u2019re going to get until you take the time to unwrap it.\u201d \u2014 Rob Lawless<\/p>\n<p>Lawless relished the opportunity the project gave him to explore the city. \u201cI thought every single meeting was [going to] be in person and I was so pure about that until Covid,\u201d he says. But when the world shut down, he had to adapt quickly \u2014 not only to keep the project alive, but to protect the people he interacted with daily. \u201c[If] one person in your community got [Covid], they were on the news,\u201d Lawless remembers. \u201c[I could already see] the headline being \u2018Guy Meeting 10,000 People Gets Covid.\u2019 It was such an easy thing to spread, and I didn\u2019t want that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The pivot to virtual meetings turned out to be transformative. \u201cIt was a blessing in disguise,\u201d he says. \u201cI now [have] met people from over 90 different countries around the world, and I still regularly talk to people outside of the U.S.\u201d<\/p>\n<p> \u201cThe FRIEND Framework\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Lawless believes that the quickest way to reach a place of understanding is to lead with curiosity and respect. \u201cIf someone has differing opinions than me, I\u2019m not there to tell them why they\u2019re wrong. I\u2019m there to understand the experiences that have led them to have those opinions,\u201d he says. \u201cI think connecting with other people is realizing that who you are meeting in that moment on the surface is the culmination of an entire lifetime of experiences. And it\u2019s your job to go and be curious and dig up what those experiences are.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He thinks that, because of social media, people judge each other too quickly before they\u2019ve really gotten a chance to understand each other\u2019s backgrounds. \u201cThe best example that I can give is: I grew up in the suburbs of Philly, so I think the Eagles are awesome and I think the Cowboys suck. It\u2019s just natural; it\u2019s how I\u2019m conditioned to be.<\/p>\n<p>Someone who grows up in Dallas thinks the Cowboys are awesome, and they think the Eagles suck. We are both just two people who are passionate about our local sports team. So we\u2019re basically like the same person, with differing views because of the experiences from our childhood.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Over time, he\u2019s developed his own conversational structure, which he calls the \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.roblawless.com\/download-friend-framework\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">FRIEND framework,<\/a>\u201d which is designed to foster understanding and connection. The framework involves asking about Family and Relationships, someone\u2019s Industry and Education path, their entertainment or hobbies, and their Needs and Dreams for the future. As a conversation goes on, Lawless searches for gaps in the timeline. Maybe he\u2019s talked about their family now and knows they are married with kids. But he doesn\u2019t know about their upbringing. Or maybe he has learned what their hobbies were as a teenager, but not what they are now.<\/p>\n<p>Through exercising the muscle of connecting, he has found a few questions that always seem to do the trick. \u201cI love asking people, \u2018If your identity was a pie chart, what would be the categories that make up who you are, and what would be the percentages?\u2019 This leads to much better answers than the question, \u2018What do you do?\u2019 I also enjoy asking people: \u2018Is life in balance right now and you\u2019re just working to maintain that balance? Or are there dials you\u2019d like to turn up and others you\u2019d like to turn down \u2014 if so, what are they?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMeeting people is such a novel experience. You\u2019re learning something new with every conversation that you have,\u201d he reflects. And, in return, the people he meets with feel that someone is genuinely interested in them. Where the meetings are a chance for Rob to learn, they are equally an opportunity for his new \u201cfriend\u201d to feel truly seen and heard.<\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/thephiladelphiacitizen.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Rob-Lawless-Teneo-Stage-Photo.jpg\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-95724\" alt=\"\" width=\"660\" height=\"440\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Rob-Lawless-Teneo-Stage-Photo.jpg\"\/><\/a>Lawless onstage. \u201cI plan to speak until the day I die.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Though the interactions themselves rarely exhaust Lawless, the logistics sometimes do. \u201cI\u2019ve probably been canceled on, rescheduled on last minute or no showed over a thousand times. So that\u2019s like a thousand hours of my life,\u201d he calculates.<\/p>\n<p>And, the pipeline of strangers isn\u2019t as easy to maintain as it once was. In the early years, he regularly met 80 to 90 new people each month. Now, between traveling for work and what he describes as a more saturated social media landscape, finding people can be surprisingly difficult.<\/p>\n<p>The financial strain was real, too. When he was first laid off in 2016, he wasn\u2019t sure how he could monetize the project. By 2018, he had $500 to his name; by 2019, only $200. The turning point came when he met a woman named Michelle Poler (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/B1Wygtggj9g\/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">meeting #2812<\/a>) for his project in August of 2019. Poler, a keynote speaker, introduced him to the world of paid speaking engagements.<\/p>\n<p>Lawless found that, especially after Covid, many companies were desperate to seek and promote connection. Co-workers were feeling estranged from one another and were anxious about networking with their peers. Lawless, who did his first paid speech in April of 2021, realized that he could speak about the importance of fostering authentic connections. He\u2019s spoken at sales kickoffs about how to build rapport with clients and colleagues, and the importance of not only reaching out when you need something from someone. He\u2019s spoken with HR departments about engagement and retention of talent.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf someone has differing opinions than me, I\u2019m not there to tell them why they\u2019re wrong. I\u2019m there to understand the experiences that have led them to have those opinions.\u201d \u2014 Rob Lawless<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPeople will struggle to leave companies if they have really good friends there. How do you create those deeper levels of connection with each other? You have to move beyond your work roles and responsibilities,\u201d he advises. Now, he says, companies are especially concerned about maintaining humanity in the age of AI.<\/p>\n<p>Lawless has now done almost 100 paid speeches, and it is his main source of income. The speaking circuit has sent him to conferences in India, Germany, and around the U.S., often thanks to introductions from people he originally met through the project.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m only a speaker in service of the project. And the project helps me learn what to say on stage,\u201d he says. While he didn\u2019t originally see this career for himself, he now cannot imagine his life without it. \u201cI plan to speak until the day I die.\u201d<\/p>\n<p> \u201cEveryone is just doing the best they can.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Lawless does a weekly reflection for his <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/robs10kfriends\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Patreon page,<\/a>\u00a0where he\u2019ll list three things he learned from meetings each week and one person that stuck out to him. He\u2019s never at a loss for source material. Once, he learned from a Russian woman that Russia actually suffered the greatest number of casualties in World War II. Lawless, who learned about the war from the American history perspective, had never heard this before. He thought that the U.S. had lost the most soldiers. \u201cIt was a reminder that what we are taught in U.S. history is different than what Russian people are taught in Russian history,\u201d he reflects.<\/p>\n<p>Other meetings have introduced him to new hobbies, new friends, and new branches of his career. A woman from Colombia sparked his love of the French pop band L\u2019Imp\u00e9ratrice. \u201cI\u2019ve realized that if you\u2019re on a quest to interact with your favorite things in life, you know what your favorite things are now, but there are so many things that would be a favorite of yours \u2013 you just don\u2019t know they exist yet because you haven\u2019t come across them,\u201d he muses.<\/p>\n<p>And many stories have left lasting emotional imprints.<\/p>\n<p>Tulsi Vagjiani (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/CmzPYhfLdTI\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">meeting #5374<\/a>), who lost her entire family in a plane crash and survived with severe burns, taught him \u201cabout finding confidence and resilience.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Chris Gellenbeck (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/BZ1npmJgNvj\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">meeting #1300<\/a>), who survived being run over by a boat, taught him \u201cthe difference between a problem and an inconvenience.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Stephanie Shelthon (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/C7FJffMrhiE\/?igsh=QkFlVEJMeVg0Sw%3D%3D\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">meeting #6319<\/a>), who lost her daughter to a murder-suicide, gave him much needed perspective during a week when he had been feeling sorry for himself.<\/p>\n<p>These stories \u2014 and hundreds like them \u2014 reinforced his belief that \u201ceveryone is just doing the best they can with the resources that they have.\u201d<\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/thephiladelphiacitizen.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/5-Year-Old-Porter.jpg\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-95727\" alt=\"\" width=\"660\" height=\"458\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/5-Year-Old-Porter.jpg\"\/><\/a>Lawless and Porter Thompson, age 5. \u201cEvery person you meet is a gift.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>As he nears the final stretch, Lawless is thinking about how the project can expand beyond him. He imagines helping newcomers to Philadelphia feel welcomed with happy hours and other events, the way college freshmen instantly bond with their class because of new student orientation. He imagines being a professor one day who will assign students to learn from each other\u2019s backgrounds instead of textbooks. He imagines fostering belonging at scale.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPeople should be building their network before they need it,\u201d he says. True connection, he believes, requires practice \u2014 not passive waiting. His advice: join a club with recurring meetings to build the \u201cfoundation plus frequency\u201d needed for friendship. Attend a run club. Volunteer. And set a small, achievable goal.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019re coming up on 2026. People will have goals to go to the gym three days a week. People will have goals to read one book a month. I think people should have a goal to meet one new person a month,\u201d he advises.<\/p>\n<p>He\u2019s made many new friends himself over the course of the project. Just last month, Lawless ran the half marathon with a guy he\u2019d met through his project. He\u2019s now texting another new friend to find a time to grab a beer. And he\u2019s learned to prioritize old friends as well. \u201cI used to think that success was like career success, financial success. And now I define success by the amount of time I spend with the people that I care about. So I\u2019m more likely to hang out with my college buddies than I was before, and to put in time with my family when I have the opportunity to do so,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>Over the past 10 years, he\u2019s met people from almost 100 countries. The youngest,<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/BUIl_GAgS5Q\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\"> Porter Thompson<\/a> (meeting #1000) was 5 years old. The oldest,<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DA642xvvQW9\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\"> Ruthe Kabler<\/a> (meeting #6568) was 100. He\u2019s met different religions, genders, sexual orientations, political affiliations, and races. And he knows he still has so many people to meet, and so much to learn. \u201cIf someone sees a lack of any type of representation in my project, then please reach out and help me fill it!\u201d he pleads.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEvery person that you meet is a gift,\u201d he says, \u201cand you never know what you\u2019re going to get until you take the time to unwrap it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-65254 aligncenter\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"39\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1764777427_704_nl_bolt600-copy.jpg\"\/> MORE CITIZENS OF THE WEEK<\/p>\n<p>      <script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"On any given weekday morning, while most of us are dodging calendar invites for another work meeting that&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":51150,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[29145,47,69,71,70],"class_list":["post-51149","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-philadelphia","tag-citizen-of-the-week","tag-mental-health","tag-philadelphia","tag-philadelphia-headlines","tag-philadelphia-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/51149","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=51149"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/51149\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/51150"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=51149"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=51149"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-pa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=51149"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}