{"id":83706,"date":"2025-12-10T22:56:07","date_gmt":"2025-12-10T22:56:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-tx\/83706\/"},"modified":"2025-12-10T22:56:07","modified_gmt":"2025-12-10T22:56:07","slug":"first-baptist-dallas-pastor-says-johnson-amendment-unconstitutional-in-testimony","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-tx\/83706\/","title":{"rendered":"First Baptist Dallas pastor says Johnson Amendment \u201cunconstitutional\u201d in testimony"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">Pastors from First Baptist Dallas told the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dallasnews.com\/news\/politics\/2025\/11\/21\/who-serves-on-president-donald-trumps-religious-liberty-commission\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.dallasnews.com\/news\/politics\/2025\/11\/21\/who-serves-on-president-donald-trumps-religious-liberty-commission\/\">Religious Liberty Commission<\/a> that the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irs.gov\/newsroom\/charities-churches-and-politics\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irs.gov\/newsroom\/charities-churches-and-politics\">Johnson Amendment<\/a>, which prevents nonprofit organizations from making political endorsements, is unconstitutional and prevents churches from having the true right to free speech.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">Testimony from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dallasnews.com\/news\/faith\/2025\/12\/09\/first-baptist-dallas-gets-7m-from-hobby-lobby-ceo-to-rebuild-church-sanctuary-after-fire\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.dallasnews.com\/news\/faith\/2025\/12\/09\/first-baptist-dallas-gets-7m-from-hobby-lobby-ceo-to-rebuild-church-sanctuary-after-fire\/\">First Baptist<\/a> Senior Pastor Robert Jeffress came Wednesday at a hearing at Old Parkland in Oak Lawn. The commission also heard testimony from members of the military and from chaplains who detailed over several hours the ways they see religious liberty as being under attack in America.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">The Religious Liberty Commission <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dallasnews.com\/news\/politics\/2025\/05\/01\/donald-trump-taps-texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-to-lead-new-commission-on-religious-liberty\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.dallasnews.com\/news\/politics\/2025\/05\/01\/donald-trump-taps-texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-to-lead-new-commission-on-religious-liberty\/\">was formed in May<\/a> through an executive order from President <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dallasnews.com\/topic\/donald-trump\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.dallasnews.com\/topic\/donald-trump\/\">Donald Trump<\/a>. Among its members are Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, neurosurgeon and former Trump cabinet member Dr. Ben Carson, television personality <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dallasnews.com\/arts-entertainment\/tv\/2025\/10\/30\/5-things-to-know-about-tv-personality-dr-phil-mcgraw-amid-ongoing-bankruptcy-case\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.dallasnews.com\/arts-entertainment\/tv\/2025\/10\/30\/5-things-to-know-about-tv-personality-dr-phil-mcgraw-amid-ongoing-bankruptcy-case\/\">Phil McGraw<\/a>, better known as Dr. Phil and the Rev. Franklin Graham, an evangelist and author. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">Wednesday\u2019s hearing was the fourth held since the commission\u2019s inception, and drew many state representatives and member of the media to the underground debate chamber at Old Parkland.<\/p>\n<p>Breaking News<\/p>\n<p class=\"dmnc_features-cta-social-article-cta-social-module__3beff secondaryRoman secondaryRoman-20 text-center text-gray-dark\">Get the latest breaking news from North Texas and beyond.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dmnc_features-cta-social-article-cta-social-module__8MgJa flex flex-wrap text-gray-dark secondaryRoman secondaryRoman-10 text-center justify-center\">By signing up, you agree to our\u00a0<a class=\"dmnc_features-cta-social-article-cta-social-module__lU9-l border-b border-gray-dark hover_border-0 focus_border-0 active_border-0\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dallasnews.com\/help\/terms-of-service\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Terms of Service<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a class=\"dmnc_features-cta-social-article-cta-social-module__lU9-l border-b border-gray-dark hover_border-0 focus_border-0 active_border-0\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dallasnews.com\/help\/privacy-policy\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Privacy Policy.<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">During his testimony, Jeffress detailed efforts by the Internal Revenue Service to remove First Baptist\u2019s tax exempt status after <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dallasnews.com\/news\/politics\/2020\/06\/28\/mike-pence-heading-to-dallas-as-texas-struggles-with-coronavirus-surge\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.dallasnews.com\/news\/politics\/2020\/06\/28\/mike-pence-heading-to-dallas-as-texas-struggles-with-coronavirus-surge\/\">the church hosted then-Vice President Mike Pence<\/a> and Carson, then a member of Trump\u2019s cabinet, at a service in June 2020.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" style=\"aspect-ratio:4096 \/ 2659\"   class=\"dmnc_images-modern-image-module__QFaG- max-w-full h-auto text-white dmnc_images-modern-image-module__9Zlll bg-gray-light object-contain\" width=\"4096\" height=\"2659\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-tx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/A5DSWUYJCVBRPI2W5SDOUWLEW4.jpg\" alt=\"Dan Patrick speaks during The Religious Liberty Commission at Old Parkland's Debate Chamber...\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Dan Patrick speaks during The Religious Liberty Commission at Old Parkland&#8217;s Debate Chamber in Dallas, Texas, on Dec 10, 2025.<\/p>\n<p>Jason Janik \/ Special Contributor<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">Jeffress said the two were hosted at a \u201ccelebrate freedom\u201d service meant to celebrate America\u2019s \u201cChristian heritage,\u201d and that Pence and Carson shared their faith journeys with congregants. Jeffress said eleven months later, the IRS informed him of an inquiry into the church because of the service.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2017\/02\/03\/513187940\/the-johnson-amendment-in-five-questions-and-answers\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2017\/02\/03\/513187940\/the-johnson-amendment-in-five-questions-and-answers\">Under the Johnson Amendment<\/a>, which was introduced in 1954 by then-U.S. Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson of Texas, nonprofit organizations including churches are prohibited from making political endorsements. Violations of this could lead an organization to lose its tax-exempt status.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">Jeffress said his church does not make political endorsements and did not do so at the June 2020 service. Instead, he said the church encourages congregants to vote with \u201cbiblical conviction.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">Jeffress said while First Baptist was ultimately cleared, the inquiry cost the church hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">\u201cAlthough our church could afford to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars defending ourselves, most churches could not do that, and no church should have to do that,\u201d Jeffress said. \u201cThe government has absolutely no business determining what is proper and improper speech in the worship service of any church.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">Ben Lovvorn, senior executive pastor of First Baptist, also testified at the hearing and said the Johnson Amendment was intended for nonprofit organizations, not churches, but because of how it has been enforced, the amendment silences churches and threatens the right to free speech.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">\u201cThe Johnson Amendment is unconstitutional on its face, and it\u2019s unconstitutional as applied,\u201d Lovvorn said. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">Lovvorn also said the amendment has been used to target churches supporting conservative values and candidates, but not churches supporting liberal values and candidates.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">Lovvorn said First Baptist supports a repeal of the Johnson Amendment, and encouraged a challenging of the amendment in court.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">Jeffress said polls show many pastors do not want to endorse candidates and congregations do not want to see their pastors endorse candidates.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">\u201cThat\u2019s very clear,\u201d he said. \u201cBut that\u2019s not the issue here. The issue is not whether they should, but whether they can.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">Others giving testimony were members of the military, including the Navy and Marines, who said they were discriminated against for refusing to take a COVID-19 vaccines for religious reasons and several military chaplains who spoke on the importance of having religious chaplains available to service members. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">Additionally, an Austin-area pastor testified and said he was fired from his position as chaplain of the Austin Fire Department after he posted online about trans athletes in women\u2019s sports, and a woman who spoke about efforts to keep a nativity scene at the Nolan County courthouse amid efforts to remove it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-text-paragraph\">Patrick said the commission was hearing testimony in order to produce a report on religious liberty to give to Trump. The report\u2019s scope includes current threats to religious freedom and the foundations of religious freedom in America, as well as developing a plan to preserve protections for religious liberty.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Pastors from First Baptist Dallas told the Religious Liberty Commission that the Johnson Amendment, which prevents nonprofit organizations&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":83707,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[102,104,103,145,1881,1499,12450],"class_list":["post-83706","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-dallas","tag-dallas","tag-dallas-headlines","tag-dallas-news","tag-donald-trump","tag-faith","tag-u-s-news","tag-veterans-and-military"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-tx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/83706","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-tx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-tx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-tx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-tx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=83706"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-tx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/83706\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-tx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/83707"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-tx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=83706"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-tx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=83706"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-tx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=83706"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}