As Kevin Smith revisits one of his most controversial titles for a long-overdue sequel, the View Askewniverse creator has some ideas for new faces he’d like to cast.
Following Dogma (1999) star Alan Rickman‘s death at age 69 in 2016, Smith recounted a “crossover moment” he experienced with the late actor, which gave him the idea of who should portray his angel character Metatron.
“I want to write it for Helen Mirren. She is incredibly Alan-adjacent,” Smith explained on the SlashFilm podcast. “She’s not playing Metatron, but she plays this movie’s version of Metatron.”
Noting he met Mirren “years ago” through Rickman, Smith explained that it’s a kismet choice. “When I was thinking, ‘Well, I don’t have Alan,’ at one point I was like, ‘Well, Adam Driver looks like a young Alan Rickman, just taller,’” he continued.
“But then I was like, no. Then I thought, ‘You know what? Helen Mirren, aside from being one of my favorite actors on the planet, I had that crossover moment with her and Alan at one point.’ As a writer and a romantic, you’ll make any connection or any justification you can,” added Smith. “But it started me thinking, maybe it would be Helen Mirren. So I’m writing it for Helen Mirren.”

Chris Rock, Kevin Smith, Jason Mewes and Linda Fiorentino in ‘Dogma’ (1999) (Lionsgate Films/Courtesy Everett Collection)
Additionally, Smith is ready to introduce The Devil into his unholy world, and he has just the actor in mind. “I worked with a kid years and years ago, and he was so sweet — nice boy, very talented — and then he went and became super famous. Whenever I write the Devil, I think of Austin Butler,” he noted of the actor, who appeared in his 2016 movie Yoga Hosers.
“Especially after Dune, man. His Feyd was pretty badass,” added Smith. “But our Devil is … he’s not like arched eyebrow insidious. He’s sexier than that. He’s like a grunge rocker. And I think Austin could pull that off pretty well.”
Butler wouldn’t be the most surprising bit of casting in the View Askewniverse, especially after Alanis Morissette played God in the original religious satire.
In June, Smith told Deadline he “cracked the story” for Dogma 2, and he plans to make a “Cannes-worthy” sequel after debuting the original movie there in ’99 and most recently returning to the festival this year with the 4K remaster.
“I will set a place at the table for everyone who was in the first movie who is still alive,” said Smith. “Sadly, Alan and George [Carlin] won’t be able to join us, but I’ll set a place at the table for all of them. If they want to come back, they’ll have a role to play, but if not, no harm, no foul.”