Donald Trump’s State Department nominee, Jeremy Carl, recently answered questions before the Senate and had several uncomfortable moments after his past comments about “White culture” were raised.
One interaction in particular went viral after Senator Chris Murphy asked Carl to define “White identity.”
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Here’s Carl’s painfully awkward response:
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You can watch the full questioning here.
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“Certain types of um, Anglo-derived culture that comes from our history,” Carl responded.
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“Like what?” Murphy asked again.
Carl paused for a moment and said, “Um, let me think about this.”
“Uh, you know, Senator, I would say if you were to look at the book by one of your Senate colleagues, ‘Born Fighting,’ the sort of Scotch-Irish military culture. Certain, you know, pride that went with that. That would be one example,” Carl continued.
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Murphy interjected, “You’re now retreating to ethnic identity. You don’t speak about ethnic identity, you speak about white identity. So tell me the values that stitch together ‘white identity,’ and make it different than Black identity?” he asked, firmly.
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“I would say that the white church is very different than the Black church in terms of its tone and style, on average. Um, food ways could also be different. Music could be different,” Carl responded.
“And those are being erased?” Murphy asked.
“Well, if you look at the Super Bowl halftime show, which was not in English this year,” Carl responded.
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“So our ability to access white churches, or white food, or white music is being erased?” Murphy asked, chuckling.
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Carl, visibly uncomfortable, then said: “I am concerned with the majority of common American culture that we had for some time, that through particularly mass immigration, I think has become much more balkanized, and I think that weakens us…I’m not apologizing for it.”
“I think you’re struggling to answer this question, right, because underlying your beliefs is a sentiment that white culture is just simply better,” Murphy pointed out.
People in the replies are like:
“I cannot believe how incredibly stupid this country has become.”
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Another person applauded Senator Murphy’s line of questioning that pressed Carl on the issue.
@MollyJongFast / Via x.com“Put this clip in a museum,” another person said.
@billybinion/ / Via x.comAnd finally, this person said, “Racism is mostly an emotional reflex. Trying to rationalize it in front of intelligent people doesn’t go well.”
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