{"id":112410,"date":"2025-08-26T23:18:07","date_gmt":"2025-08-26T23:18:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/112410\/"},"modified":"2025-08-26T23:18:07","modified_gmt":"2025-08-26T23:18:07","slug":"computers-say-snow-for-labor-day-in-wyoming-but-don-day-doesnt-buy-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/112410\/","title":{"rendered":"Computers Say Snow For Labor Day In Wyoming, But Don Day Doesn\u2019t Buy It"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">Snow in the first week of September? It\u2019s entirely possible, although some long-range forecasts can be misleading.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">Chris Nunley, a meteorologist with FOX 13 Utah, shared a long-range forecast suggesting a cold front from the northern Pacific could descend on the Western U.S. during the first week of September.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">The front could be strong enough to bring the first snowfall of the season to Wyoming\u2019s mountains, especially in the western half of the state. The Wind River, Bighorn and Teton Ranges could be blanketed by Labor Day, and even the Snowy Range could get snowy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">Whether that will actually happen\u00a0is\u00a0far from certain.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">It reminded Cowboy State Daily meteorologist Don Day of something he hasn\u2019t and will never do when communicating weather to Wyomingites.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">\u201cI never post any graphics like that on social media,\u201d he said. \u201cPeople do it all the time, and I chide them for it. It drives me nuts and gets people all ramped up. I hate it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">So, will it snow\u00a0in Wyoming in\u00a0September?\u00a0Probably, Day said,\u00a0but not immediately.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">\u201cThere&#8217;s a high probability of snowfall in the mountains in September, but I am not confident it&#8217;s going to happen in that first week,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p><img class=\"_1lnx4c90 _1lnx4c93 _1lnx4c96 _1lnx4c98\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/September-snow-map-Meteorologist-Chris-Nunley-8.26.25.jpg\" alt=\"A long-range computer forecast calling for snow in the first week of September, and possibly on Labor Day, can be misleading, meteorologist Don Day says. Those computer predictions \u201cdrive me nuts and gets people all ramped up,\u201d he says. \u201cI hate it.\u201d\" style=\"font-size:0\" uid=\"d8d61733-38c0-4db7-a052-3c1cbf265b9e\"\/>A long-range computer forecast calling for snow in the first week of September, and possibly on Labor Day, can be misleading, meteorologist Don Day says. Those computer predictions \u201cdrive me nuts and gets people all ramped up,\u201d he says. \u201cI hate it.\u201d (Meteorologist Chris Nunley)Snowy Septembers<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">Wyoming usually sees snow in September. The first blizzard of last winter\u2019s\u00a0season temporarily shut down the Beartooth Highway on Sept. 13.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">Snow\u00a0is expected at elevations above 10,000 feet\u00a0by\u00a0mid-September, but\u00a0Day said there hasn\u2019t been an \u201cearly high-country\u201d snow in Wyoming for several years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">\u201cI certainly think there\u2019s a very good possibility for some snow in the mountains in September,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">In that sense, the graphic shared by Nunley supports Day\u2019s\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/cowboystatedaily.com\/2025\/08\/18\/don-days-way-too-early-winter-forecast-colder-snowier-and-longer\/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">long-range forecast<\/a>\u00a0for the upcoming winter season.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">Based on current weather patterns, historical data and long-range modeling, Day believes it\u2019s going to be a longer, colder and snowier winter for Wyoming and the Rocky Mountain\u00a0region.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">\u201cFor this winter, overall, the whole state will be colder than last winter compared to the 30-year average,\u201d he said. \u201cThere should be more snow and cold this winter than last on both sides of the Continental Divide. I\u2019m sticking to that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">So, does Day agree with Nunley and this two-week outlook? Not exactly, because it could be right for the wrong reasons.<\/p>\n<p>The Computer Said So<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">Day\u2019s concern with Nunley\u2019s graphic is that it was produced by long-range weather modeling via computers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">While an extremely potent tool for weather monitoring and forecasting, Day said\u00a0computer\u00a0modeling isn\u2019t the end-all, be-all and shouldn\u2019t be treated as such.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">\u201cYou see inconsistency with long-range modeling,\u201d he said. \u201cThe data is a tool, but when you post a graphic from a model verbatim, the possibility that it\u2019s going to change on the next model run is extremely high.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">Long-range modeling\u00a0uses current weather patterns to anticipate future fronts and systems and how they\u2019ll impact various regions. Day\u2019s concern is how much can change from day to day, let alone\u00a0over\u00a0two weeks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">\u201cShowing a graphic from that particular run shows that it may snow the first week of September,\u201d he said. \u201cThree or four other model runs later, or even the next one, it may not show that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">\u201cSo,\u00a0do you post the next model run that doesn&#8217;t show snow in September and say, \u2018Oh, just kidding?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">Day has cautioned against overreliance on long-range modeling for years, especially for Wyoming\u2019s forecasts. In his experience, Wyoming\u2019s weather is too erratic for confident forecasts two weeks out, let alone two months out.<\/p>\n<p>Extreme Prejudice<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">Long-range forecasting puts Day in a difficult position. A modeling run that shows snow in the first week of September would support his long-range forecast for the upcoming winter, but he won\u2019t let it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">\u201cThat graphic could end up being correct, but I don\u2019t have the confidence level to tell people right now, at this point in time, that it&#8217;s going to snow next week or that first week of September,\u201d he said. \u201cFrom what I\u2019m seeing, I can\u2019t say that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">In Day\u2019s opinion, graphics like the one Nunley shared should be taken with \u201cextreme prejudice.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">The most reliable forecasts come from local sources, such as the National Weather Service offices in Riverton, Cheyenne and surrounding states that cover Wyoming.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">With a three-day weekend ahead, many Wyomingites are wondering whether to pack a swimsuit or a snowsuit for their outdoor excursions. Based on what he\u2019s seeing\u00a0Tuesday, Day felt confident enough to say snow will stay away for Labor Day.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">\u201cI don&#8217;t see it getting cold enough to snow in the mountains this Labor Day weekend,\u201d he said. \u201cOther than these afternoon showers and thunderstorms, especially on Saturday, I think it&#8217;s going to be a decent three-day weekend weather-wise.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">Day isn\u2019t ruling out snow during the first week of September, but two weeks is too far ahead for a forecast with strong confidence. Computers might say so, but he won\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">\u201cWe kind of have to get the current pattern cleared out, see what evolves next as we go into sort of the next storm cycle, and see where things end up,\u201d he said. \u201cCould we get some high-country snowfall in early September? It&#8217;s certainly a possibility, but by no means is it a foregone conclusion.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1uhbe1z1 _1uhbe1z0\">Andrew Rossi can be reached at <a href=\"https:\/\/cowboystatedaily.com\/2025\/08\/26\/computers-say-snow-for-labor-day-in-wyoming-but-don-day-doesnt-buy-it\/mailto:arossi@cowboystatedaily.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">arossi@cowboystatedaily.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Snow in the first week of September? It\u2019s entirely possible, although some long-range forecasts can be misleading. 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