{"id":151691,"date":"2025-09-12T15:05:09","date_gmt":"2025-09-12T15:05:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/151691\/"},"modified":"2025-09-12T15:05:09","modified_gmt":"2025-09-12T15:05:09","slug":"2-stock-market-bear-cases-with-sp-nasdaq-at-records-goldman-sachs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/151691\/","title":{"rendered":"2 Stock Market Bear Cases With S&#038;P, Nasdaq at Records: Goldman Sachs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Earnings are strong. The US economy is holding steady. Fed rate cuts are coming. Nothing looks like it could go wrong in the stock market now.<\/p>\n<p>That, at least, is what investors seem to think, with major indexes <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/stock-market-today-sp500-dow-nasdaq-gold-price-records-inflation-2025-9\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">breaking fresh records<\/a> this week as traders took in tame inflation data and grew more confident in coming Fed easing.<\/p>\n<p>But <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/stock-market-outlook-investment-advice-goldman-sachs-gold-debt-rates-2025-9\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Goldman Sachs<\/a> has some reservations about what looks to be an ideal environment for stocks. In a note to clients on Thursday, strategists highlighted two risks facing the market that could eventually pressure stock prices lower.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Stocks have largely rallied because the US economy looks to be in a sweet spot: Growth remains resilient, but there are pockets of the US\u2014like the <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/august-jobs-report-unemployment-rate-employment-federal-reserve-interest-rates-2025-9\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">job market<\/a>\u2014flashing signs of weakness, which signals the Fed has room to cut interest rates.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/inflation-august-cpi-consumer-price-index-federal-reserve-interest-rates-2025-9\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">August inflation<\/a> rose in line with economists&#8217; expectations, keeping rate-cut hopes elevated.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;With the overall contours of our macro forecasts broadly reflected in market pricing, there are risks on two fronts,&#8221; Goldman said.<\/p>\n<p>1. Markets start to worry about a recession<\/p>\n<p>              <img xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"lazy-image \" encoding=\"UTF-8\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" data-content-type=\"image\/png\" srcs=\"{&quot;https:\/\/i.insider.com\/68c422f657d362d375e80b15&quot;:{&quot;contentType&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;aspectRatioW&quot;:1435,&quot;aspectRatioH&quot;:841}}\" alt=\"Chart showing market implied forward US growth\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                      Markets are pricing in solid US economic growth.<\/p>\n<p>              Goldman Sachs Global Investment Research<\/p>\n<p>Bad news is good news for the stock market lately, with weak job growth and a slowing activity in areas like manufacturing bolstering the case for rate cuts \u2014 but that paradigm could flip with little notice.<\/p>\n<p>A potential <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/personal-finance\/investing\/recession-vs-depression\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">recession<\/a> has been market&#8217;s mind for some time, but investors have mostly shrugged off the risks: The estimated market-implied US forward <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/gdp-gross-domestic-product-second-quarter-tariffs-economy-2025-7\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">growth<\/a> rate currently hovers around 1.6%, according to Goldman&#8217;s analysis, indicating that most investors still expect the economy to grow at a pace near the historical norm.<\/p>\n<p>                      Related stories<\/p>\n<p>                                <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazy-image \" viewbox=\"0 0 1 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/1754989098_269_placeholder.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                            Business Insider tells the innovative stories you want to know<\/p>\n<p>                                <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazy-image \" viewbox=\"0 0 1 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/1754989098_269_placeholder.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                            Business Insider tells the innovative stories you want to know<\/p>\n<p>Those views could be upended, though, should the <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/job-market-hiring-unemployment-labor-force-participation-immigration-tariffs-2025-9\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">job market<\/a> continue to weaken, strategists said. While the unemployment rate remains near a historic low, hiring has been softer than expected in recent months, and the US added <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/jobs-benchmark-revisions-labor-market-trade-leisure-hospitality-2025-9\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">911,000 fewer jobs<\/a> than initially thought from April 2024 through March of this year, according to a preliminary revision from the Labor Department.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The quickest way for the market to worry that it has misjudged the limited nature of near-term economic weakness is a sharper rise in the <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/states-unemployment-claims-rising-most-2025-9\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">unemployment rate<\/a>. That scenario would lead the market to pull forward cuts and put equities under pressure,&#8221; they added.<\/p>\n<p>2. Views on Fed rate cuts could shift<\/p>\n<p>On the flip side, if growth in the US remains strong, investors may start to worry that they&#8217;ve priced in <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/jumbo-interest-rate-cut-odds-august-jobs-report-labor-market-2025-9\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Fed rate cuts<\/a> too aggressively. That could also put pressure on stocks, given how optimistic the market has been about Fed easing in recent weeks.<\/p>\n<p>Investors are now pricing in a 92% chance the Fed is set to trim its target rate at least 25 basis points at next week&#8217;s policy meeting, according to the CME FedWatch tool. Investors are also pricing in a 79.4% probability that the Fed will cut rates three times or more from their current levels by the end of the year.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Because growth worry recently has been much more limited, good growth news and the avoidance of <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/is-the-us-in-recession-jobs-unemployment-mark-zandi-2025-8\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">recession<\/a> from here is less likely to prompt growth upgrades and more likely to lead to a reversal of the dovish policy shock that the market has priced than last year. In that case, we could see upward pressure on rates in a way that is less supportive of equities,&#8221; the bank said.<\/p>\n<p>Goldman said it believed the path for risk assets remained &#8220;friendly&#8221; going forward, despite the near-term risks.<\/p>\n<p>In a previous note, strategists at the firm said they believed the US had entered a new <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/stock-market-super-cycle-investing-strategy-analysis-investing-goldman-sachs-2025-9\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">secular bull market<\/a>, giving investors opportunities in areas like technology, services, and manufacturing, as well as <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/personal-finance\/investing\/what-is-diversification\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">diversification<\/a> opportunities outside of the US.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Earnings are strong. The US economy is holding steady. Fed rate cuts are coming. 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