{"id":220519,"date":"2025-10-13T02:43:30","date_gmt":"2025-10-13T02:43:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/220519\/"},"modified":"2025-10-13T02:43:30","modified_gmt":"2025-10-13T02:43:30","slug":"does-empathy-help-or-harm-mental-health-an-expert-on-the-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/220519\/","title":{"rendered":"Does empathy help or harm mental health? An expert on the debate."},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">Empathy is in a weird place right now. Most of us probably think the ability to place ourselves in someone else\u2019s shoes is a good thing. That\u2019s what compassion is all about right? But a recent trend in conservative Christian circles is calling empathy into question. Some people even believe it\u2019s a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vox.com\/culture\/413530\/what-does-empathy-is-a-sin-mean-christian-extremism\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">sin<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">Even those who think of empathy as a good thing struggle with the concept. Erica Steenberger, a therapist based in Chicago, admits that at times it can be overwhelming \u2014 and she\u2019s basically empathic for living. \u201cI\u2019ve been really thinking a lot lately about the darker side of being someone who practices empathy on purpose as a career all day, every day, and there\u2019s been some really hard parts of it that I was not prepared for,\u201d she told the Explain It to Me hotline, Vox\u2019s weekly, call-in podcast.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">If therapists struggle with empathy, Steenberger says she sees the way people in different professions do too. \u201cMaybe somebody works retail and throughout the day, they deal with some angry people, some disappointed people, and they have some regular interactions too. But they\u2019re also chatting with their coworkers, and one of their coworkers is telling them about a really difficult thing happening in their family. And another coworker is talking about the stress of school. Then this person finishes their shift and they get in the car and they listen to the news and they\u2019re hearing about Gaza or they\u2019re hearing about deportations, and they\u2019re imagining what it would be like to be in that situation,\u201d she tells Vox. \u201cI just don\u2019t think someone going through that day is thinking about how much vicarious grief, vicarious stress, vicarious anxiety they\u2019ve been around.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">So, is empathy a good thing, or a bad thing? According to Jamil Zaki, the answer is complicated. Zaki is a psychology professor at Stanford University, where he also leads the Stanford Social Neuroscience Lab. \u201cI hesitate to just use good and bad to describe a psychological state like empathy. It just is,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">How do we learn to be more empathetic? And what does empathy really mean in the first place? Zaki tells us on this week\u2019s episode of Explain It to Me.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">Below is an excerpt of our conversation, edited for length and clarity. You can listen to the full episode on <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/explain-it-to-me\/id1042433083\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/1vSUO6Bg4abtjRF7fnGpT1\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/link.chtbl.com\/explainit?sid=site\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">wherever you get podcasts<\/a>. If you\u2019d like to submit a question, send an email to askvox@vox.com or call 1-800-618-8545.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">What is empathy? What exactly are we talking about here?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">Empathy has three pieces. The first is vicariously sharing what other people feel, which is called emotional empathy. The second is trying to understand what life and reality is like for another person, which is cognitive empathy. And the third is caring about others and wishing for their well-being to improve, which is often called empathic concern, or compassion. These three pieces are connected to each other, but they can also be separated.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">There\u2019s this idea that empathy is a sin. How do you think of that, as someone who studies it?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">I\u2019ve seen this in a lot of the very recent critiques of empathy \u2014 this idea that if you empathize with somebody, you\u2019re sort of giving up your own perspective, that you will end up agreeing with them or condoning whatever they do. That is not true at all.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">I do think there are certain ways in which empathy can lead us to make decisions that we probably don\u2019t want to make. For instance, favoring somebody who we empathize with versus somebody who we don\u2019t know, or favoring people who we\u2019re close to because we understand their emotions more. That said, the idea that empathy is always toxic or that we should remove it from our lives seems quite misguided to me as well, because empathy has enormous fundamental ways of supporting everything that we do well as a species.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">We often think of empathy as something that we do for other people, but it turns out that it actually helps us in many cases. In our lab we find that when people feel empathy for their roommates, classmates, for the people that they\u2019re close with, for instance, they themselves are less stressed, happier and less lonely. We also find that when you give to others, that\u2019s one of the best things that you can do for your physical and mental health. It helps us, the people who feel empathy, but it also helps the people around us. Physicians who are empathic treat their patients in ways that are more effective. Bosses who are empathic have happier and healthier employees. Parents and spouses who are empathic have healthier connections with family.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">Finally, empathy helps us connect at a broad scale. People who feel it are more likely to volunteer, to donate to charity, and to see people who are different from them free from the lens of prejudice, stereotyping, and bias. So there are lots of benefits.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup _1iohv3z2 xkp0cg9\">\u201cWe often think of empathy as something that we do for other people, but it turns out that it actually helps us in many cases.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">What\u2019s going on in our brains when we\u2019re empathic? <\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">Well, let\u2019s be clear that empathy doesn\u2019t always make us feel better. For instance, if you were in my lab right now and we were scanning your brain, and you saw somebody else experience pain \u2014 like stub their toe or accidentally cut themselves with a knife \u2014 the parts of your brain that would come online would not be those associated with pleasure, but with pain. Your brain would look as though you were going through the situation that this person was.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">But when we can use that empathy to make a positive difference for somebody else, that\u2019s when you start to experience benefits. If I were to scan your brain while you instead did something kind for somebody who you felt connected to, the parts of your brain that come online when you eat chocolate would also be active. I think a lot of us these days feel empathy, but don\u2019t take any action. You go online and you see tragedy after tragedy, suffering all over the world and you feel helpless. That\u2019s not a very healthy state for a person to be in. But when we can turn empathy into action, that\u2019s when it starts to benefit us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">Are people naturally empathetic, or is this something we learn over time?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">I think a little bit of both. As a species, we are enormously empathic. We can care for people who are thousands of miles away, who we will never meet. We can care for future generations who haven\u2019t been born yet. We can care for fictional characters who don\u2019t even exist. That\u2019s something that no other animal does. So our capacity for empathy is fantastic.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">That said, it\u2019s also something that changes with our experience. Certain experiences can cause our empathy to weaken and atrophy, and others can cause it to strengthen and grow like a muscle. It is a skill, and crucially, that means that by practicing the right habits, we can build our empathy on purpose.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">Okay, so if empathy is like a muscle, how do we work that muscle? How do we become more empathetic?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">We\u2019ve found that people who think that empathy is a fixed trait are less likely to work on it and less likely to grow. But people who know that it\u2019s a skill try to work on it \u2014 try to grow and actually do as a result. It\u2019s like a self-fulfilling prophecy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">If you think you can change, you\u2019re going to be right. And if you think you can\u2019t change, you\u2019re also going to be right. Empathy changes, not because you do some grandiose thing once, but it changes because you just take a slightly different approach to what you do every day. I encourage people to put a daily calendar hold for just five minutes where they can perform a small act of goodwill or service.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">Another really critical habit to develop is humility. Oftentimes, the reason that we can\u2019t empathize with other people is because we\u2019re too confident in our own perspective, especially during disagreements. It\u2019s critical to say, \u201cWhat don\u2019t I know? What does this person have to teach me?\u201d And shifting our goal in conversations from scoring points and dunking on people to trying to learn from them.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Empathy is in a weird place right now. 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