{"id":227583,"date":"2025-10-15T22:55:17","date_gmt":"2025-10-15T22:55:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/227583\/"},"modified":"2025-10-15T22:55:17","modified_gmt":"2025-10-15T22:55:17","slug":"democrats-say-they-wont-be-intimidated-by-trump-as-shutdown-goes-on","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/227583\/","title":{"rendered":"Democrats say they won’t be intimidated by Trump as shutdown goes on"},"content":{"rendered":"

WASHINGTON (AP) \u2014 Entering the third week of a government shutdown<\/a>, Democrats say they are not intimidated or cowed by President Donald Trump\u2019s efforts to fire thousands of federal workers<\/a> or by his threats of more firings to come<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Instead, Democrats appear emboldened, showing no signs of caving as they returned to Washington from their home states this week and twice more rejected a Republican bill to open the government. The vote Wednesday was the ninth time the GOP plan has failed.<\/p>\n

\u201cWhat people are saying is, you\u2019ve got to stop the carnage,\u201d said Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine, describing what he heard from his constituents, including federal workers, as he traveled around his state over the weekend. \u201cAnd you don\u2019t stop it by giving in.\u201d <\/p>\n

Hawaii Sen. Brian Schatz said the firings<\/a> are \u201ca fair amount of bluster\u201d and predicted said they ultimately will be overturned in court or otherwise reversed. That was already happening Wednesday, when a federal judge in California temporarily ordered the administration to stop the firings<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer of New York said Wednesday that the layoffs are a \u201cmistaken attempt\u201d to sway Democratic votes. His House counterpart, Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries, said the administration\u2019s \u201cintimidation tactics are not working. And will continue to fail.\u201d<\/p>\n

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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., speaks during a news conference as the government shutdown enters its third week, at the Capitol in Washington, Tuesday, Oct. 14, 2025. (AP Photo\/J. Scott Applewhite)<\/p>\n

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., speaks during a news conference as the government shutdown enters its third week, at the Capitol in Washington, Tuesday, Oct. 14, 2025. (AP Photo\/J. Scott Applewhite)<\/p>\n

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Democratic senators say they are hearing instead from voters about health insurance subsidies that expire at the end of the year<\/a>, the issue that the party has made central to the shutdown fight. <\/p>\n

Sen. Chris Coons of Delaware said that the impact of the expiring health insurance subsidies on millions of people, along with cuts to Medicaid enacted by Republicans earlier this year, \u201cfar outweighs\u201d any of the firings of federal workers that the administration is threatening. <\/p>\n

Republicans, too, are confident in their strategy not to negotiate on the health care subsidies until Democrats give them the votes to reopen the government. There were no signs of any movement on either side. <\/p>\n

\u201cWe\u2019re barreling toward one of the longest shutdowns in American history,\u201d House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., said earlier this week<\/a>. <\/p>\n

Moderate Democrats aren\u2019t budging <\/p>\n

In the first hours of the shutdown<\/a>, which began at 12:01 a.m. EDT Oct. 1., it was not clear how long Democrats would hold out. <\/p>\n

A group of moderate Democrats who had voted against the GOP bill immediately began private, informal talks with Republicans. The GOP lawmakers hoped enough Democrats would quickly change their votes to end a filibuster and pass the spending bill with the necessary 60 votes. <\/p>\n

But the bipartisan talks over the expiring health care subsidies have dragged on without a resolution so far. Two weeks later, the moderates, including Sens. Jeanne Shaheen and Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire and Gary Peters of Michigan, are still voting no. <\/p>\n

\u201cNothing about a government shutdown requires this or gives them new power to conduct mass layoffs,\u201d Peters said after the director of the White House\u2019s budget director, Russell Vought<\/a>, announced that the firings had started on Friday. <\/p>\n

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Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va. speaks to reporters at the Capitol, Wednesday, Oct. 1, 2025, in Washington. (AP Photo\/Manuel Balce Ceneta)<\/p>\n

Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va. speaks to reporters at the Capitol, Wednesday, Oct. 1, 2025, in Washington. (AP Photo\/Manuel Balce Ceneta)<\/p>\n

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DC-area lawmakers see advantages to shutdown<\/p>\n

Another key group of Democrats digging in are lawmakers such as like Kaine who represent millions of federal workers in Virginia and Maryland. Kaine said the shutdown was preceded by \u201cnine months of punitive behavior\u201d as the Republican president has made cuts at federal agencies \u201cand everybody knows who\u2019s to blame.\u201d <\/p>\n

\u201cDonald Trump is at war with his own workforce, and we don\u2019t reward CEOs who hate their own workers,\u201d Kaine said. <\/p>\n

Appearing at a news conference Tuesday alongside supportive federal workers, Democratic lawmakers from Maryland and Virginia called on Republicans to come to the negotiating table. <\/p>\n

\u201cThe message we have today is very simple,\u201d said Sen. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland. \u201cDonald Trump and Russ Vought stop attacking federal employees, stop attacking the American people and start negotiating to reopen the federal government and address the looming health care crisis that is upon us.\u201d <\/p>\n

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Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., left, and Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, R-La., speak at a news conference as the government shutdown begins its tenth day, in Washington, Friday, Oct. 10, 2025. (AP Photo\/J. Scott Applewhite)<\/p>\n

Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., left, and Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, R-La., speak at a news conference as the government shutdown begins its tenth day, in Washington, Friday, Oct. 10, 2025. (AP Photo\/J. Scott Applewhite)<\/p>\n

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Mass firings, and a judge\u2019s order to stop <\/p>\n

In a court filing Friday, the White House Office of Management and Budget said well over 4,000 federal employees from eight departments and agencies would be fired in conjunction with the shutdown.<\/p>\n

On Tuesday, Trump said his administration is using the shutdown to target federal programs that Democrats like and \u201cthey\u2019re never going to come back, in many cases.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cWe are closing up Democrat programs that we disagree with and they\u2019re never going to open again,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n

But U.S. District Judge Susan Illston in San Francisco said Wednesday that the cuts appeared politically motivated and were being carried out without much thought. She granted a temporary restraining order that unions had sought to block the cuts, saying she believed the evidence ultimately would show they were illegal. <\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u2019s a human cost that cannot be tolerated,\u201d she said. <\/p>\n

More votes in the Senate <\/p>\n

Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., held firm that Republicans would not negotiate until Democrats reopen the government. \u201cWe\u2019re willing to have a conversation on all of the other issues they want to talk about,\u201d he said Wednesday, but not until then. <\/p>\n

The firings, Thune has repeatedly said, \u201care a situation that could be totally avoided.\u201d <\/p>\n

As Democrats again rejected the GOP legislation to reopen the government, Republicans announced additional votes on individual spending bills, starting Thursday with the defense legislation that would fund salaries for the military. It was unclear whether Democrats would support it. <\/p>\n

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AP Congressional Correspondent Lisa Mascaro contributed to this report. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"WASHINGTON (AP) \u2014 Entering the third week of a government shutdown, Democrats say they are not intimidated or…\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":227584,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[18],"tags":[23,1927,116962,9286,31673,127283,3505,12,38003,793,3138,9292,12481,127282,9283,127281,8640,13410,3,111,5533,127160,2798,8638,9293,3438,21,792,19,22,20,25,24,5148,800],"class_list":["post-227583","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-united-states","tag-america","tag-ap-top-news","tag-brian-schatz","tag-charles-schumer","tag-chris-van-hollen","tag-christopher-coons","tag-district-of-columbia","tag-donald-trump","tag-gary-peters","tag-general-news","tag-government-and-politics","tag-government-shutdown","tag-hakeem-jeffries","tag-jeanne-shaheen","tag-john-thune","tag-maggie-hassan","tag-maryland","tag-mike-johnson","tag-news","tag-politics","tag-russell-vought","tag-susan-illston","tag-tim-kaine","tag-u-s-democratic-party","tag-u-s-government-shutdown","tag-u-s-republican-party","tag-united-states","tag-united-states-government","tag-united-states-of-america","tag-unitedstates","tag-unitedstatesofamerica","tag-us","tag-usa","tag-virginia","tag-washington-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/227583","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=227583"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/227583\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/227584"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=227583"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=227583"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=227583"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}