{"id":282709,"date":"2025-11-10T06:08:29","date_gmt":"2025-11-10T06:08:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/282709\/"},"modified":"2025-11-10T06:08:29","modified_gmt":"2025-11-10T06:08:29","slug":"ive-spent-so-many-years-thinking-that-im-about-to-do-my-last-job","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/282709\/","title":{"rendered":"I\u2019ve Spent So Many Years Thinking That I\u2019m About to Do My Last Job"},"content":{"rendered":"<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"1\" class=\"body-dropcap css-1sphjjy emevuu60\">It&#8217;s hard to imagine Jonathan Bailey ever running low on energy. Hollywood&#8217;s hottest Duracell Bunny arrives at Mayfair\u2019s Connaught Hotel in a flash of white teeth, bright eyes and positive vibes.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"4\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">Wearing a cap and a logo tee, Bailey is fresh off the Eurostar from Paris, where he attended his pal Jonathan Anderson\u2019s womenswear debut for Dior. \u201cThe energy is wild, isn\u2019t it?\u201d he exudes. For the occasion, Bailey sported a pair of wraparound sunglasses and a quarter-zip sweater from the French fashion giant. \u201cIn a brilliant way. You can feel a palpable tension. Presumably because it\u2019s a huge moment of change.\u201d<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"6\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">He looks happy and tanned, which is to be expected, given that he\u2019s currently parked at the white-hot centre of the cinematic firmament.<\/p>\n<p>What to Read Next<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"10\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">Wicked: For Good, in which Bailey plays the effervescent, occasionally shirtless Prince Fiyero, hits cinemas this week. If it lands anywhere near the success of the franchise\u2019s first instalment \u2014 which topped the 2024 box office, taking home $756 million (\u00a3565 million) \u2014 Bailey\u2019s star will only continue its steep, sparkly ascent.<\/p>\n<p><img draggable=\"true\" alt=\"jonathan bailey\" title=\"jonathan bailey\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1923\" height=\"2400\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" style=\"color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/29-09-25-esquire-jb-s03-494-v1-rgb-690cb0c3ed49e.jpg\" class=\"css-0 e1g79fud0\"\/>Matt Healy<\/p>\n<p>Coat, \u00a32,800; sweatshirt, \u00a31,400; shirt, \u00a3700; jeans, \u00a3840; tie, \u00a3210, all Dior<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"13\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">Earlier this year, he starred opposite Scarlett Johansson in Jurassic World Rebirth, and he\u2019s also hard at work expanding the Shameless Fund \u2014 a charitable initiative he launched in 2024. The mission: \u201cTo raise money through global brand partnerships and support LGBTQ+ individuals around the world in living openly, loving freely and thriving without fear or shame.\u201d<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"15\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">So yes, Jonathan Bailey is handsome, stylish and wildly successful, but he\u2019s also a pretty good dude. And right now, he\u2019s folding himself into a too-formal hotel boardroom chair, fidgeting as he sips his coffee, ready to talk.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"17\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">Teo van den Broeke: First things first: let\u2019s talk about your retirement.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"19\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">Jonathan Bailey: Are we speaking with a twinkle?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"21\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Always\u2026<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"23\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I was at the end of Richard II and I was going on the Jurassic press tour and there were two films I could have gone on to do. The Shameless Fund was bubbling away, and then at the beginning of the year, when I was doing the play,<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"25\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">I had the opportunity to start workshopping [the fund] with Sarah Jenkins, [former] COO of Saatchi &amp; Saatchi. We were looking to see how we could scale up, and it felt like a really important time to get it right. I stepped away from doing those two films. I then did an interview with a magazine when I was cycling between Rome and Pisa on the way to a friend\u2019s wedding, and the internet kept cutting out. As a result, there was an unfortunate misquote that said I\u2019d stopped acting for a bit.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"27\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: So, you didn\u2019t say it?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"29\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: My intention was to say, \u201cNext year I\u2019ll be back,\u201d but yeah, the ripple effect was extraordinary. My sister, who I\u2019m close to and lives in Australia, called me and said, \u201cWow, is everything OK? You\u2019ve given up?\u201d By Monday, the headlines were \u201cJonathan Bailey has quit acting\u201d. I learnt at that moment that you can\u2019t control it.<\/p>\n<p><img draggable=\"true\" alt=\"jonathan bailey\" title=\"jonathan bailey\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1924\" height=\"2400\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" style=\"color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/29-09-25-esquire-jb-s09-129-v2-rgb-690cb0bde9a89.jpg\" class=\"css-0 e1g79fud0\"\/>Matt Healy<\/p>\n<p>Jacket, \u00a32,405; shirt, \u00a3945; trousers, \u00a31,120; tie, \u00a3230; gloves, \u00a3645, all Saint Laurent by Anthony Vaccarello. Boots, about \u00a31,730, Tom Ford<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"32\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Do you feel at peace with that?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"34\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Integrity is so precious, isn\u2019t it? The only thing you have control over is how you show up in the world. How you show up to work and how you show up for your friends and family. And if there\u2019s alignment between what you say and how you act, there\u2019s a kind of throbbing sense of integrity.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"36\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: So you have stopped acting, but not for very long?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"38\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Well yeah. I mean as it stands at the moment, I\u2019ll definitely be back to work next year. I\u2019m not taking the whole of 2026 off.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"40\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: But you won\u2019t be putting anything out during 2026?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"42\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Correct. Currently the absolute focus is the Shameless Fund.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"44\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: How is that going?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"46\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I had to do my first presentation this week. I spoke for 30 minutes to the WACL [Women in Advertising and Communications, Leadership]. It was such an inspiring room. It felt extraordinary talking about something that has existed in my head and something that was born out of an unease and discomfort. It\u2019s exposing. The aim is to scale it up, and it\u2019s exciting. One of the metrics of success is the money we raise, but another metric is joy and activation.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"48\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Explain \u201cactivation\u201d.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"50\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Activation is a word I learnt too late in life. There are times when you can feel overwhelmed or despondent, and you feel grief about the state of the world. But activation is when you\u2019re taken out of a cycle of thought. It can happen in conversations with friends, or it can happen with a stranger. It\u2019s a call to arms of sorts.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"52\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">When it comes to showing up in a way that supports the LGBTQIA+ global community, it\u2019s about being creative in a time when the bumpers have been put up. People currently feel straitjacketed about how they tell stories and engage with potential customers and communities in a time when community is being pulled apart at the sinews. It\u2019s about thinking of ways to bring people back together.<\/p>\n<p><img draggable=\"true\" alt=\"jonathan bailey\" title=\"jonathan bailey\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1840\" height=\"2300\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" style=\"color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/29-09-25-esquire-jb-s08-050-v2-rgb-690cb0ca77247.jpg\" class=\"css-0 e1g79fud0\"\/>Matt Healy<\/p>\n<p>Coat, about \u00a34,250; top, about \u00a313,390; trousers, about \u00a31,965, all Tom Ford<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"55\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Was the idea for Shameless the result of having felt shame?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"57\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I think we all feel shame. Anyone who\u2019s ever felt any sort of aggression or corrective judgement. That\u2019s part of the human experience. But of course, there is this huge triangle of privilege within it. And I\u2019m fully aware that I\u2019m right at the top of that. I\u2019m also a massive benefactor of everyone who came before me. If, in the short time that I\u2019m here, I can be a benefactor of the plight and the fight of a community that created a world in which I can play a Winkie prince\u2026<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"59\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Then that\u2019s a good thing! Winkie prince is great.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"61\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I\u2019m obsessed with Winkie prince. I reached out to Donatella Versace and she put it on a bomber jacket for me. There should be a whole brand called Winkie Prince.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"63\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: It sounds like a JW Anderson capsule. But back to shame\u2026<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"65\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Shame is everywhere. But art is shame, isn\u2019t it? Because there\u2019s a need to interpret things if you feel pain.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"67\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: I think there\u2019s also something about gay men and women. We need to prove ourselves constantly: be bigger, and better, and more sparkly. I think that shapes us.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"69\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I think that\u2019s right. I also think the truth about shame is that it can be completely debilitating, painful and dispiriting, and it can be really dangerous. It can literally be a matter of life and death. But also \u2014 depending on the privilege of where and how you live \u2014 it has this ability to fine-tune empathy and provide the ability to see multiple points of view, because you\u2019re constantly having to appraise what other people are perceiving and how they\u2019re acting. But if you\u2019ve felt shame in your life, my God, do you feel joy. The opposite of shame is freedom, right? For me, joy is being in the right place, with the right people, and getting to a place where you feel like, \u201cYes, I\u2019m meant to be here.\u201d Or actually, \u201cI feel really awkward, I\u2019m going to go.\u201d Getting to that point feels good.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"71\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Did you have to work to get to that point?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"73\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: In my 20s I was hard on myself because I was like, \u201cWhy am I finding walking into this room full of people really uncomfortable?\u201d But I\u2019ve learnt to be like, \u201cYeah, it\u2019s just not for me.\u201d And that\u2019s fine. If not going into that room means I\u2019m not going to work or whatever that\u2019s fine.<\/p>\n<p><img draggable=\"true\" alt=\"jonathan bailey\" title=\"jonathan bailey\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1924\" height=\"2400\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" style=\"color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/29-09-25-esquire-jb-s12-032-v2-rgb-690cb0c3dbaca.jpg\" class=\"css-0 e1g79fud0\"\/>Matt Healy<\/p>\n<p>Jacket, \u00a32,850; scarf, price on request, both Dunhill. Trousers; boots, both price on request, Loro Piana<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"76\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Really? I imagine because you have such a warm persona\u2026<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"78\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: That I must be an ice queen inside?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"80\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: No, but Scarlett Johansson called you twinkly \u2014 and you are twinkly. Is that something you put out into the world to protect yourself?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"82\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: No. If anything I\u2019m more like I was when I was five or six now. We\u2019re all corrupted by stories we\u2019re given of the world. And it\u2019s a lot of narrative. But then you realise that that\u2019s just what the human experience is.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"84\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: What\u2019s the story that\u2019s corrupted you?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"86\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I\u2019m trying to think of a light, \u201cactor doing a profile\u201d friendly way to say it.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"88\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Come on\u2026<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"90\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: If you don\u2019t go to drama school, you can\u2019t do Shakespeare. Or, if you do ballet, it\u2019s linked to your sexuality. It\u2019s like an indicator, a signifier of something. Or boys should only play rugby or football. Or if you can\u2019t focus in school, you\u2019re thick. <\/p>\n<p>Joy is being in the right place, with the right people, and feeling, \u2018Yes, I\u2019m meant to be here\u2019 <\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"94\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: You\u2019re clearly an open person. Do you feel gagged by your position?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"96\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I feel like I\u2019m very private, but I\u2019m not secretive.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"98\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: What\u2019s the difference?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"100\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: There\u2019s nothing that I\u2019m like, \u201cI\u2019m not going to tell Teo that.\u201d But I want to be emotionally calm when talking about things in any capacity that might be\u2026 You know, there are private ways you feel about the world and certain issues. And it\u2019s like when you go to the pub or a dinner party and you find yourself saying something you haven\u2019t even maybe voiced to yourself, and you can leave thinking, \u201cGod, actually, what did I say?\u201d I just don\u2019t want to find myself in that environment if I can avoid it.<\/p>\n<p><img draggable=\"true\" alt=\"jonathan bailey\" title=\"jonathan bailey\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1923\" height=\"2400\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" style=\"color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/29-09-25-esquire-jb-s07-152-v2-rgb-690cb0c44e7a7.jpg\" class=\"css-0 e1g79fud0\"\/>Matt Healy<\/p>\n<p>Jumper, \u00a31,100; shirt, \u00a3860; trousers, \u00a31,290; boots, \u00a31,470; belt, \u00a3350, all Prada<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"103\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Do you feel like your acting work is an outlet for any feelings of shame you\u2019ve experienced?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"105\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Yes.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"107\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: And does it influence the roles you choose?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"109\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Yes. I can\u2019t speak about the process of choosing work other than it feels like expanding memory foam. When I read a script and I respond to a character, it\u2019s a watertight experience for me because it feels like I\u2019m drunk. It\u2019s the same feeling as being giddy or listening to an amazing song, or being really moved, or finding something hilarious. But when I look at my work, you\u2019ll see probably more of the stuff I keep private.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"111\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Are there parallels between you and your character Fiyero in Wicked: For Good? He seems to be on his own journey of self-discovery.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-dynamic-svg=\"true\" src=\"https:\/\/www.esquire.com\/_assets\/design-tokens\/fre\/static\/icons\/play.db7c035.svg?primary=%2523ffffff\" loading=\"lazy\" data-testid=\"dynamic-svg-base\" height=\"24\" width=\"24\" alt=\"Play Icon\" role=\"img\" title=\"Play\" class=\"css-ovd4yx e7hrar01\"\/><img alt=\"jonathan bailey interview\" title=\"Wicked: For Good's Jonathan Bailey: &quot;I\u2019ve Spent So Many Years Thinking That I\u2019m About to Do My Last Job&quot;\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1000\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" style=\"color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/wicked-for-good-official-trailer-68d3e87a21921.jpg\" class=\"e7hrar03 css-g939jb e1g79fud0\"\/><\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"114\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: The characters in Wicked are all entirely fallible and there\u2019s no good or bad. Fiyero makes decisions that are based not just on his human relationships, but also on what he feels is right. He\u2019s so moved by Elphaba [the Wicked Witch of the West, played by Cynthia Erivo], who steps outside of a power system, who has independent thought and sees the world and communicates that clearly. And it\u2019s an interesting character arc, because once he\u2019s activated and has that sense of meaning, there\u2019s no going back.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"116\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">I mean, the lyrics to \u201cDancing Through Life\u201d [in the first film] are entirely nihilistic. He\u2019s like, \u201cWe\u2019re going to die anyway, so let\u2019s create chaos wherever we go,\u201d presumably to match the chaos in his mind. But there\u2019s a dull ache, I think, in Fiyero. He\u2019s yearning for something \u2014 and it\u2019s not just Elphaba, it\u2019s the grounding of action and being on a meaningful path. He\u2019s drawn to that first. I hope people yearn for a time when life was easier for the characters \u2014 as much as I feel like that about growing up sometimes \u2014 they\u2019re having to take responsibility and decide who they are during a time when people are controlling narratives.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"118\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Is that why you were attracted to the project?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"120\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: One thing Fiyero feels strongly is that Elphaba needs to be protected. So he leaves Glinda [the Good, played by Ariana Grande]. His inability to make a decision on his own is what \u201cDancing Through Life\u201d is about, until he meets Elphaba and something is awakened in him. In the stage show it\u2019s brilliant and moving, but it\u2019s also kind of comedic and light. In this film it feels quite brutal and dark.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"122\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Is the theatre where you want to spend most of your time?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"124\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: If I know what I\u2019m going to do next in the theatre, then I feel great. I always know what the next theatre project will be. No matter what happens with theatre, you\u2019re always working with extraordinary people in a room. It\u2019s a diligent process, which is about fine-tuning. You come out with a nimbleness. It\u2019s like sharpening your utensils before making a roast dinner.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"126\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: That\u2019s a nice analogy.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"128\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I started working in theatre when I was six and a half, by accident. I sometimes find myself remembering Helen McCrory\u2019s voice \u2014 I did a play with McCrory, James Purefoy and Joseph Fiennes. Getting to hear her voice however many nights a week, that is just how incredibly lucky I was. I\u2019ve never known anything different than the theatre.<\/p>\n<p><img draggable=\"true\" alt=\"jonathan bailey\" title=\"jonathan bailey\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1923\" height=\"2400\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" style=\"color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/29-09-25-esquire-jb-s04-112-v1-rgb-690cb0bda9cf0.jpg\" class=\"css-0 e1g79fud0\"\/>Matt Healy<\/p>\n<p>Morning-suit jacket, \u00a32,800; jeans, \u00a3670; neckband, \u00a3790, all Dior<\/p>\n<p><img draggable=\"true\" alt=\"jonathan bailey\" title=\"jonathan bailey\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1924\" height=\"2400\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" style=\"color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/29-09-25-esquire-jb-s04-155-v2-rgb-690cb0bdaa219.jpg\" class=\"css-0 e1g79fud0\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Matt Healy<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"131\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: What\u2019s the longest amount of time you\u2019ve not done a play?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"133\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: The six years after I was born.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"135\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: So, you\u2019ve done theatre, you\u2019ve done blockbusters; are you entering your auteur era?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"137\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Maybe. There are so many film-makers I\u2019d love to work with.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"139\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Can you share a couple?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"141\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: No. I\u2019m sensitive to that. When I read other actors saying it I just go, \u201cOh God, how cringe.\u201d<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"143\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: OK, are there any exciting roles on the horizon? Following your fallow year, of course.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"145\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I\u2019m just doing that thing that swimmers do before they dive into the pool. There\u2019s a couple of really exciting things. The expanding foam has been activated.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"147\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: This is the Better Men issue of Esquire. Who were your male role-models growing up?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"149\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: After going to a state primary, I received a music scholarship to the Oratory, before going to the Magdalen College School in Oxford for Sixth Form. I couldn\u2019t believe how inspiring the teachers were. There was one in particular called Dr David Brunton, who saw me for who I was. I had 16 periods with him a week. He was just the most incredible, inspiring person.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"151\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">For my dissertation, I started writing about the representation of Hutus and Tutsis in films about the Rwandan genocide. Then Brokeback Mountain came out. I can\u2019t remember if I just wanted a reason to go back 10 more times to see it, but I was completely activated. Overnight, I decided to make my dissertation about the representation of homosexuality in the film. I remember coming to him and saying, \u201cI want to do this.\u201d And he said, \u201cDo you know what? I think you\u2019re on to something.\u201d<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"153\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">I got a very good mark on that fastidiously researched essay. But I also remember once coming late to class and he asked, \u201cWhere have you been?\u201d And I said, \u201cOh, I\u2019m sorry. I was just talking to Mr Pearce,\u201d and he went, \u201cOK, wait there.\u201d And he went and called Mr Pearce and he said, \u201cHave you just been with Johnny?\u201d And he said no. And he went, \u201cDon\u2019t be a dickhead.\u201d<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"155\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: A lesson!<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"157\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: The reason I\u2019m telling you so much about him is that he tragically took his own life when I was on my gap year. It was so upsetting and confusing. He was such a huge part of my life and I was lucky to be taught by him. I have to retrofit this person who was clearly struggling with their mental health. It felt like a very sort of formative and bruising time.<\/p>\n<p><img draggable=\"true\" alt=\"jonathan bailey\" title=\"jonathan bailey\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1924\" height=\"2400\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" style=\"color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/29-09-25-esquire-jb-s02-193-v2-rgb-690cb0c406d2f.jpg\" class=\"css-0 e1g79fud0\"\/>Matt Healy<\/p>\n<p>Jacket; shirt; kilt; hat; tie; foulard; boots, all price on request, Loro Piana<\/p>\n<p><img draggable=\"true\" alt=\"jonathan bailey\" title=\"jonathan bailey\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1924\" height=\"2400\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" style=\"color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/29-09-25-esquire-jb-s02-009-v2-rgb-690cb0bdbbd15.jpg\" class=\"css-0 e1g79fud0\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Matt Healy<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"160\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: What impact has he had on your life and career?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"162\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I think about him a lot. I think about the fact that we studied Othello at school, and he would always ask me to read with him. Then I ended up acting in Othello at the National [Theatre], which I regard as my sort of breakthrough role. I think in my grief and confusion I created a connection between those two things. There\u2019s a security or a calmness to the idea that something continues when someone passes away. I felt so prepped for the audition because of the extraordinary time I\u2019d had with him. So, to then play Cassio in Othello\u2026 That was really amazing.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"164\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Are you a spiritual person?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"166\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Sounds like it, doesn\u2019t it?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"168\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: I was thinking about what Joanna Lumley said recently about how all actors should be able to play all roles. What\u2019s your take on that?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"170\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: One argument is, of course, everyone should be able to play everything. A hundred per cent. But if you\u2019re someone who has been told that you can\u2019t do a role because of something specific about who you are \u2014 something that people may be digging to discover \u2014 if you\u2019ve had that experience, you\u2019re not going to say that. Everyone deserves the opportunity to say everyone can play everything. And you can only say that if you have had the space. That\u2019s the nuance.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"172\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Do you feel like you have the space to play everything?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"174\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Yes. But then also, I\u2019ve always been like, \u201cIf I\u2019m not invited, that\u2019s fine.\u201d I\u2019ll go where I\u2019m invited. We\u2019re here for such a short amount of time. It\u2019s about showing up and being brilliant so that other people can have opportunities, right?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"176\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Do you feel the pressure to be brilliant all the time?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"178\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Yes. But that, I think, comes from a complete reverence for directors and writers. When I go to the theatre, even now, I go: &#8220;How do they do it?\u201d I\u2019ve just got that hard-wired in. So, if you\u2019re taking the job, you\u2019ve got to fucking go for it and do the best you can. Because there\u2019s always someone who\u2019s not able to play that part because you\u2019re playing it. There\u2019s nothing more frustrating than a performance that feels inauthentic or passive.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"180\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: That must be true for all actors \u00ad\u2014 do you ever feel pressure as an individual?<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s nothing more frustrating than a performance that feels inauthentic<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"183\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I\u2019ve spent so many years thinking that I\u2019m about to do my last job. And I\u2019ve also been like, \u201cI want to hold my boyfriend\u2019s hand.\u201d That\u2019s a non-negotiable thing. It\u2019s never been an option not to do that. I think that\u2019s the benefit of being in theatre, because it\u2019s a more inclusive place.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"185\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">The opportunities available to me now are off the back of years and years of amazing actors playing all roles. There have been so many gay men that people have loved playing straight parts, whether you\u2019ve known they\u2019re gay or not.<\/p>\n<p><img draggable=\"true\" alt=\"jonathan bailey\" title=\"jonathan bailey\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"2400\" height=\"1601\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" style=\"color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/29-09-25-esquire-jb-s06-146-v2-rgb-690cb0c4389f8.jpg\" class=\"css-0 e1g79fud0\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Matt Healy<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"188\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Are there any career-limiting narratives around Jonathan Bailey right now?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"190\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Maybe that I refuse to wear shoes.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"192\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Are we referring to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.esquire.com\/uk\/style\/shoes\/a65089881\/luxury-flip-flops\/\" target=\"_blank\" data-vars-ga-outbound-link=\"https:\/\/www.esquire.com\/uk\/style\/shoes\/a65089881\/luxury-flip-flops\/\" data-vars-ga-ux-element=\"Hyperlink\" data-vars-ga-call-to-action=\"red-carpet flip flops\" data-node-id=\"192.2\" class=\"body-link css-1kzkd1m emevuu60\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">red-carpet flip flops<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"194\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Yeah, or just, like, that my feet are always out. As if I was going to play, like, a cobbler or something. I don\u2019t know, I don\u2019t really think about it. No.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"196\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: You\u2019ve expressed irritation at being referred to as an \u201cout gay actor\u201d. Can you touch on that a bit?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"198\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I just did an interview with Time magazine, and I explained it to the writer, and she didn\u2019t refer to me as that. It\u2019s so exciting. People responded and were like, \u201cThis is like the first time he\u2019s not been referred to in that way.\u201d That is change.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"200\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Do you worry about AI coming for your job?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"202\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: The idea of the human creative spirit being sidelined or annexed is really upsetting and distressing. One thing I found doing Shakespeare this year is that nothing felt more radical or engaged than being in a room with words and people, and being in the round. There was such a crackle in the air. It\u2019s radical now to get a pen and paper. I think there\u2019s going to be such value in that.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"204\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: You\u2019ve said that you don\u2019t want to move to Hollywood, does that still stand?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"206\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I\u2019ve never really thought about it.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"208\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: But you\u2019re becoming a Hollywood fixture, wouldn\u2019t living over there be useful?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"210\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Every film I\u2019ve done has not been filmed in America. In my 20s, people would go out to pilot season. And I was like, \u201cI don\u2019t want to. I just don\u2019t want to do it.\u201d I can\u2019t explain anything more than it\u2019s just not for me.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"212\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: So, you\u2019re more of a homebird?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"214\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I tell you what, I love travelling with work. Being in Toronto filming Fellow Travelers and going to the Muskoka Lakes. I got to experience different communities and attitudes. I worked in Johannesburg when I was 23 and then Cape Town the year after that and I went to Thailand last year. It\u2019s really bonding with the cast when you travel away. But this year I\u2019ve been at home a lot more and I\u2019ve been able to see my nieces at school, and I\u2019ve been out to see my friends. I\u2019ve been at more birthdays and weddings and that feels good. I\u2019m yet to feel any need to move.<\/p>\n<p><img draggable=\"true\" alt=\"jonathan bailey\" title=\"jonathan bailey\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1921\" height=\"2400\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" style=\"color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/29-09-25-esquire-jb-s01-131-v1-rgb-690cb0bdd1b82.jpg\" class=\"css-0 e1g79fud0\"\/>Matt Healy<\/p>\n<p>Jacket, \u00a34,250; shirt, \u00a3680; trousers, \u00a33,350; tie, \u00a3195, all Louis Vuitton<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"217\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Do you want to have kids?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"219\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: It\u2019s amazing to be an uncle of six, and they\u2019re all so cool and independent, you know. Do you want kids?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"221\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: I think so.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"223\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Have you ever not wanted kids? As in, have you ever allowed yourself to not think that?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"225\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: There are moments where it\u2019s like, it\u2019s going to be expensive. It\u2019s going to be hard. What\u2019s the reality in this world?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"227\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: And there\u2019s obviously loads of kids that could really benefit from love and support. I have the absolute privilege of being a gay man \u2014 there\u2019s no biological clock. It\u2019s such a privilege, isn\u2019t it, to even be able to have a kid? So, I\u2019m aware of it as an idea, as a concept, but it doesn\u2019t feel very loud in my head at the moment.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"229\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Do you feel like your life started later than other people\u2019s?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"231\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Well, no, but I was working. I\u2019d done three plays at the RSC by the time I was 12.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"233\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: In terms of interpersonal relationships, though? I feel like a lot of gay men are late bloomers in the love department.<\/p>\n<p><img draggable=\"true\" alt=\"jonathan bailey\" title=\"jonathan bailey\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1923\" height=\"2400\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" style=\"color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/29-09-25-esquire-jb-s03-301-v2-rgb-690cb0bda384c.jpg\" class=\"css-0 e1g79fud0\"\/>Matt Healy<\/p>\n<p>Trench-coat, price on request; jeans, \u00a3840, both Dior<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"236\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I guess you never know where you are in relation to the mountain as you\u2019re climbing it. But then you break through the clouds and you have to decide to keep moving through them. And that requires a bit of support and a lot of reading. And if you can, you know, if you have access to it, therapy is really good.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"238\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: Do you do therapy?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"240\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: For sure, at various different moments in time. Obviously, in a utopia, everyone would be able to have one session per week. But to answer your question about formative relationships, I went on holiday with most of my school friends who I\u2019ve known since I was a teenager at the end of Richard II. And they were still referring to the boyfriends they had at school. They had these really intimate relationships. They slept over and breathed into the napes of their lovers\u2019 necks. They knew what their partners smelled like. They were having that chemical thing that happened later on for me. But there are also so many reasons \u2014 outside of being a gay man \u2014 that would lead you to have a delayed formative relationship. There are so many people you meet along the way. It\u2019s important to remember that.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"242\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: That\u2019s true.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"244\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: I was having dinner last night and we were talking about regrets.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"246\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: What are yours?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"248\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: Well, I don\u2019t have any.<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"250\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">TVDB: You don\u2019t have any regrets?<\/p>\n<p data-journey-content=\"true\" data-node-id=\"253\" class=\"css-19cu2vh emevuu60\">JB: In the words of \u00c9dith Piaf, I don\u2019t regret a thing.<\/p>\n<p>The Esquire Winter 2025 issue is out 13 November<img draggable=\"true\" alt=\"esquire cover\" title=\"esquire cover\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"2802\" height=\"3390\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" style=\"color:transparent;width:100%;height:auto;\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/print-cover-n-s-jonathan-bailey-690cb9525755c.jpg\" class=\"css-0 e1g79fud0\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Esquire<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s hard to imagine Jonathan Bailey ever running low on energy. 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