{"id":332026,"date":"2025-12-05T12:50:28","date_gmt":"2025-12-05T12:50:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/332026\/"},"modified":"2025-12-05T12:50:28","modified_gmt":"2025-12-05T12:50:28","slug":"the-beatles-dont-need-help-winning-new-fans","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/332026\/","title":{"rendered":"The Beatles don\u2019t need help winning new fans"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Author and longtime <a href=\"https:\/\/www.salon.com\/2017\/11\/13\/rolling-stone-at-50-a-bittersweet-legacy\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Rolling Stone<\/a> music journalist, Rob Sheffield, joined host Kenneth Womack for our special seventh season finale of \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.salon.com\/topic\/everything-fab-four\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Everything Fab Four<\/a>,\u201d a podcast co-produced by me and Womack (a music scholar who also writes about pop music for Salon) and distributed by Salon.<\/p>\n<p>Sheffield was a guest at the recent <a href=\"https:\/\/ef4fest.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cEverything Fab Four\u201d Fest<\/a> in early November in Asbury Park, NJ, where he shared an onstage conversation with Womack and our previous podcast guest, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.salon.com\/2024\/06\/13\/i-was-obsessed-jamie-bernstein-on-sharing-beatlemania-with-leonard-bernstein\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jamie Bernstein<\/a>. The event celebrated <a href=\"https:\/\/www.salon.com\/topic\/the-beatles\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Beatles<\/a>\u2019 \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.salon.com\/2020\/03\/21\/the-genius-of-the-beatles-rubber-soul\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Rubber Soul<\/a>,\u201d an album which not only turns 60 this week but that Sheffield says is his favorite and \u201cgoes with us everywhere.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t care if they made \u2018better\u2019 albums,\u201d he said. \u201cTo me, \u2018Rubber Soul\u2019 is the one. The Beatles shocked themselves with how great it was, and it\u2019s still shocking me. It\u2019s an album that continues to inspire and influence musicians to this day.\u201d From the Fab Four\u2019s 1960s contemporaries <a href=\"https:\/\/www.salon.com\/topic\/brian-wilson\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Brian Wilson<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.salon.com\/topic\/the-rolling-stones-2\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Rolling Stones<\/a> to more current artists such as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.salon.com\/topic\/ariana-grande\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Ariana Grande<\/a> and Phoebe Bridgers, Sheffield believes people appreciate that the band was \u201cwilling to experiment and not repeat the formula.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For Womack\u2019s part, he expressed admiration for Sheffield\u2019s work and the \u201cvulnerability\u201d he shows when writing about music \u2013 something Sheffield attributes to the former Beatles. \u201cEnthusiasm. Music has always brought it out of me, and you can blame <a href=\"https:\/\/www.salon.com\/topic\/paul-mccartney\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Paul McCartney<\/a> for that. He and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.salon.com\/topic\/ringo-starr\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Ringo<\/a> both, in 2025, still have this pure, undimmed, unjaded enthusiasm.\u201d He went on to explain that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.salon.com\/topic\/taylor-swift\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Taylor Swift<\/a> (whose work he examines in his latest book, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harpercollins.com\/products\/heartbreak-is-the-national-anthem-rob-sheffield?variant=42266859077666\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Heartbreak is the National Anthem<\/a>\u201d) also seems to share that as a songwriter. \u201cI\u2019ve always loved her ability to jump into every emotion \u2013 to summon that enthusiasm. She and Paul are both so similar in their fanaticism about writing pop music. They can take an everyday scene and make it something memorable.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>LISTEN:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Follow and listen to \u201cEverything Fab Four\u201d on\u00a0<a target=\"_blank\" data-stringify-link=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/33fY6RkjPjgdUf5Mnkk7Fd\" data-sk=\"tooltip_parent\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/33fY6RkjPjgdUf5Mnkk7Fd\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Spotify<\/a>,\u00a0<a target=\"_blank\" data-stringify-link=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/everything-fab-four\/id1531380522\" data-sk=\"tooltip_parent\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/everything-fab-four\/id1531380522\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>,\u00a0<a target=\"_blank\" data-stringify-link=\"https:\/\/radiopublic.com\/everything-fab-four-WDZxvN\" data-sk=\"tooltip_parent\" href=\"https:\/\/radiopublic.com\/everything-fab-four-WDZxvN\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">RadioPublic<\/a>,\u00a0<a target=\"_blank\" data-stringify-link=\"https:\/\/pca.st\/9apfpzzd\" data-sk=\"tooltip_parent\" href=\"https:\/\/pca.st\/9apfpzzd\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Pocket Casts<\/a>\u00a0or wherever you get your podcasts.<\/p>\n<p>The conversation then turned to The Beatles\u2019 \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.salon.com\/2025\/11\/21\/inside-the-beatles-rise-anthology-shines-again-with-a-revelatory-new-restoration\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Anthology<\/a>,\u201d which just saw an album and docuseries update and rerelease for its 30th anniversary. \u201cJust when you think they can\u2019t dig into the vaults any deeper, they do,\u201d said Sheffield. \u201cEvery time it seems it\u2019s leveled out and reached its plateau, the kids take it and run with it. There\u2019s never been any need to turn people on to The Beatles, because they just do a better job of doing that themselves than anyone ever has.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Want more from culture than just the latest trend? The Swell highlights art made to last.<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.salon.com\/newsletter?utm_source=onsite&amp;utm_medium=organic&amp;utm_campaign=the-swell-edit-signup\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Sign up here<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>Host Kenneth Womack is the author of a two-volume biography on Beatles producer George Martin and the bestselling books <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/p\/books\/solid-state-the-story-of-abbey-road-and-the-end-of-the-beatles-kenneth-womack\/12002554?ean=9781501746857\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cSolid State: The Story of Abbey Road and the End of the Beatles\u201d<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/p\/books\/john-lennon-1980-the-last-days-in-the-life-kenneth-womack\/14494562?ean=9781799931126\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cJohn Lennon, 1980: The Last Days in the Life.\u201d<\/a> His latest book is the authorized biography of Beatles road manager Mal Evans, <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/p\/books\/living-the-beatles-legend-the-untold-story-of-mal-evans-kenneth-womack\/19218391?ean=9780063248526\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cLiving the Beatles Legend,\u201d<\/a> out now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"red_box\">Read more<\/p>\n<p class=\"white_box\">about Everything Fab Four<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Author and longtime Rolling Stone music journalist, Rob Sheffield, joined host Kenneth Womack for our special seventh season&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":332027,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[53],"tags":[88,216],"class_list":{"0":"post-332026","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-music","8":"tag-entertainment","9":"tag-music"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/332026","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=332026"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/332026\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/332027"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=332026"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=332026"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=332026"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}