{"id":367580,"date":"2025-12-24T13:43:13","date_gmt":"2025-12-24T13:43:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/367580\/"},"modified":"2025-12-24T13:43:13","modified_gmt":"2025-12-24T13:43:13","slug":"some-others-questions-for-pluribus-season-two","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/367580\/","title":{"rendered":"Some Others Questions for \u2018Pluribus\u2019 Season Two"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>                  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/2dd3c1320d5aa8c14352630955cb903e92-pluribus-ep9-6.rhorizontal.w700.jpg\" class=\"lede-image\" data-content-img=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" style=\"width:100%;height:auto;\" fetchpriority=\"high\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>\n                  When Zosia says to Carol, \u201cSoon enough you\u2019ll understand everything, and you will feel so much better,\u201d we\u2019re not quite there yet. But we can get started with these queries about how the Others work and where their plan for world domination goes next.<br \/>\n                  Photo: Apple TV+\n              <\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjhmz0y4000i0ihfekevexhu@published\" data-word-count=\"17\">Spoilers follow for the first season of <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pluribus_(TV_series)\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Pluribus<\/a> through the season finale, \u201cLa Chica o El Mundo.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjhno3j6001t3b7dy46tfp6b@published\" data-word-count=\"98\">The experience of watching Pluribus is, first, puzzling over <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/what-is-pluribus-about-apple-tv-vince-gilligan.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">what it\u2019s really about<\/a>; second, wondering exactly how many different expressions of longing and disgust <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/rhea-seehorn-pluribus-interview-vince-gilligan.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Rhea Seehorn<\/a> can make (so many!); and third, asking where, exactly, is this story about Carol Sturka\u2019s experiences with the Others going? The literal bomb left dangling in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/pluribus-season-1-finale-recap-episode-9-la-chica-o-el-mundo.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the first-season finale<\/a> leaves that last question extremely open to speculation, but when thinking about the second season, there are actually bigger questions to consider than Chekhov\u2019s nuclear weapon \u2014 all of them having to do with the humanity-conquering entity that willingly provided it to Carol.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjhno3u2001w3b7dtdfobpqr@published\" data-word-count=\"94\">The first season\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/pluribus-apple-tv-series-review-vince-gilligan-rhea-seehorn.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">deliberately slow pacing<\/a> means that about three months have passed in show time since the series premiere. And while a second season is coming, no release date has been announced, which gives us lots of time to wonder about the Joined side of the Pluribus equation. When Zosia says to Carol, \u201cSoon enough you\u2019ll understand everything, and you will feel so much better,\u201d we\u2019re not quite there yet. But we can get started with these seven queries about how the Others work and where their plan for world domination goes next.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjhno3wh001y3b7dhnde2cg8@published\" data-word-count=\"139\">Aside from the broader question of \u201cWhat are they up to?,\u201d this is perhaps the most recurring curiosity throughout the season, one that Carol first asks of the Others and then realizes she has to ask of herself, too. When Carol meets Koumba (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/pluribus-samba-schutte-koumba-diabate-interview.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Samba Schutte<\/a>) and discovers he has already surrounded himself with beautiful Joined women, she\u2019s scathing toward him, noting he is \u201csticking [his] dick\u201d into \u201ca bunch of brain-damaged incompetents.\u201d Zosia (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/karolina-wydra-imparts-the-universal-sadness-of-pluribus.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Karolina Wydra<\/a>) insists that the Others welcome affection and won\u2019t engage with Carol when she asks whether she\u2019s \u201csome sex doll\u201d with Carol as her \u201cpimp,\u201d so theoretically, the Others are okay having sex with Koumba. (Note, too, that they are capable of removing themselves from situations they don\u2019t like or that put them in danger, like how they leave Albuquerque, Carol, and later Manousos behind.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjhno3yw001z3b7dsbunor3m@published\" data-word-count=\"213\">But there are still larger questions of consent and individuality here, since none of the Others agreed to the Joining; we don\u2019t know if they actually have sex, of their own volition, for pleasure; and it\u2019s unignorable that Zosia might have started a relationship with Carol to distract her or win her over to the idea that the Others are using her stem cells as a way to eventually make her one of them. Does sex not have any emotional meaning to the Others\u00a0because romantic love accomplishes nothing for their biological imperative? Does reproduction not play any role in their understanding of love, since they reproduce in a way that is separate from sex? When Zosia tells Carol of Manousos, \u201cWe love him the same as we love you,\u201d isn\u2019t she essentially admitting that there is nothing special to the Others about romantic love? I don\u2019t want to suspect that the ever-smiley Zosia purposefully used Carol\u2019s desire for companionship as a way to lull her into the Joining, but if the Others will do whatever to make the un-Joined happy, then isn\u2019t Carol doing with Zosia the exact same thing that Carol judged Koumba for doing? The Others are essentially love-bombing all the un-Joined, and for now that feels more conniving than romantic.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjhno44t00223b7ddm6qee7b@published\" data-word-count=\"231\">All season long, Zosia and the Others have been insisting to Carol that they value her happiness, which translates into meeting her wants, even if they put the Others in danger \u2014 they give her a hand grenade, they give her an atomic bomb. \u201cWe would move heaven and earth to make you happy, Carol,\u201d Robert Bailey Jr.\u2019s DHL delivery guy <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/pluribus-episode-3-recap-grenade.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">tells her<\/a>. If Carol even lightly gestures toward wanting something, they\u2019ll insist she take it or that they\u2019ll provide it; this reminds me quite a bit of the Iranian practice of taarof, an extreme form of etiquette where if you compliment something, the other person will practically force you to have it. (This is why, at the end of an Iranian dinner party, you\u2019ll probably walk out of the host\u2019s house with all the leftovers and some random thing you mentioned liking that they\u2019ll slip into your purse.) But are the Others really experiencing happiness or simply placidity? How do their emotions really work, chemically or otherwise? Does \u201chappiness\u201d feel different for them? Zosia lists to Carol how serotonin, dopamine, and oxytocin work together to elevate her mood, but once the Joining occurs, do those chemicals still work in the same ways, or are the Others also changed biologically? \u201cHappiness\u201d as a physical or psychological process, and how it works for the Others versus the immune is worth teasing out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjhno47500243b7dgot4rqqo@published\" data-word-count=\"297\">When Pluribus begins, Carol couldn\u2019t be more dismissive of her fans, the people who consumed her \u201cspeculative historical romance literature\u201d and helped provide a very nice life for herself and her partner and manager, Helen (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/pluribus-miriam-shor-helen-carol-relationship-ice-hotel-interview.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Miriam Shor<\/a>). She\u2019s stuck in the Wycaro trilogy \u2014 which now comprises four books \u2014 and frustrated with how obsessed her fans are with the \u201cfucking proud and haughty pirate\u201d Raban, who Carol had first wanted to make a woman and then didn\u2019t for fear it would out her. All of that is to say, when the Joining occurs, Carol isn\u2019t exactly in love with her own work. But the Others are; as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/culturati-50-2025-jeff-hiller-interview-questionnaire.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jeff Hiller\u2019s<\/a> Larry tells her, they equate her work with that of Shakespeare, and they can\u2019t wait to learn what she has in store for her fifth book. Zosia is similarly praiseful when Carol, inspired by their first sexual encounter, writes a new chapter and lets Zosia read it. Now, no shade to the Wycaro books, because the romance genre should be taken seriously! But, uh, if all the Others\u2019 minds are connected, and if they all share each other\u2019s ideas, does this mean that they can\u2019t produce any new ideas, which is why they\u2019re so jazzed for Carol to keep writing? In the nearly three months Pluribus has shown us the Others, we get very little sense of their internal culture, their social priorities, or what they do with their time. Are they capable of producing art, or do they even care to? All of this is complicated by the fact that they are actively working on turning Carol into one of them, but we\u2019ve gotten such a limited view of the Others so far that it\u2019s hard to decipher what they actually value past survival and togetherness.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjhno49m00263b7d8k8eqktl@published\" data-word-count=\"100\">Aside from providing clarity on all of the above, a day in the life of a Joined being, from their perspective, would be fascinating. We got a very brief glimpse of this when the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/pluribus-recap-season-1-episode-2-pirate-lady-apple-tv.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">series first introduced Zosia<\/a>, who, as Carol\u2019s designated chaperone, seems to have a special, even elevated, status. Is there a hierarchy among the Others? Do all their minds operate in the same way? Internally, is anyone fighting against their Joined programming, as suggested by Manousos\u2019s treatment of the Other known as Rick in the season finale? Give us some insight! That would maybe help explain \u2026<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjhno4c400273b7d27ai62da@published\" data-word-count=\"204\">Carol learns that nearly 900 million people died during the Joining, but that still leaves billions of people alive on Earth, and nearly 1 million living in Albuquerque alone. Where are they, exactly? Zosia explains that the Others reject the concept of private property, and we see a lot of people sleeping together at the Rio Rancho Events Center after abandoning their homes, and lines of cars and trucks leaving Albuquerque when the Others abandon Carol. But shouldn\u2019t Carol still see someone \u2014 anyone! \u2014 when they return to Albuquerque or during her vacations with Zosia, which are both after she\u2019s warmed up to the Others? We see some small pockets of people, like the Others indulging in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/pluribus-episode-6-recap-apple-tv-hdp.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Koumba\u2019s James Bond fantasy<\/a> and Kusimayu\u2019s fellow villagers tending to their chores and tasks before she\u2019s turned in the finale\u2019s cold open. But by and large, countless people are missing. Wherever they\u2019ve moved to, and whatever they\u2019re up to outside of working on a way to contact planet Kepler-22b, is still nebulous. (We already know one thing they are up to, which is abandoning domesticated animals that need their care. The newly Joined Kusimayu walking away from that goat who is bleating after her is heartbreaking!)<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjhno4fj00283b7dcaq11j6a@published\" data-word-count=\"134\">We know that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/pluribus-john-cena-hdp-cameo-explained.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">John Cena is now an Other<\/a>, bless his heart. Pluribus mentions a few other celebrities pre-Joining: George Clooney, who Carol used as a cover for her Raban inspiration, and Rick Steves, the public-TV icon who has long advocated for traveling the world cheaply and unconventionally. (Carol hating the ever-pleasant Steves is a real sign of her crankiness.) Are they okay, too? The president is gone, but which other celebrities are just living their lives now as regular ol\u2019 Others, like Albuquerque\u2019s mayor? I don\u2019t want Pluribus to go full The Bear and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/the-bear-cameo-fishes-jamie-lee-curtis-analysis.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">get overloaded with cameos<\/a>, but it would be fun to cut away to some unexpected people doing whatever it is the Others do. May I suggest Vince Gilligan reach out to his former employee, Breaking Bad alumni <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/civil-war-and-jesse-plemons-all-american-horror.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jesse Plemons<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"www.vulture.com\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmjhno4h100293b7dr2y4i28k@published\" data-word-count=\"98\">This is just me being a dummy who never gets an answer right when Jeopardy! has anything remotely resembling a \u201cscience\u201d category. But if radio waves are what helped the Others\u2019 initial message reach Earth, then radio waves \u2014 as Manousos discovered \u2014 could help reverse the Joining, right? Manousos being surrounded by books about radio waves and taking notes on loops and circuits all feel like clues worth paying attention to. Sure, Carol has a bomb, but it seems like Manousos\u2019s theories about the Others may turn out to be the more valuable weapon in season two.<\/p>\n<p>      <a class=\"see-all-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/tags\/pluribus\" aria-label=\"See All from More From This Series\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><br \/>\n        See All<\/p>\n<p>      <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"When Zosia says to Carol, \u201cSoon enough you\u2019ll understand everything, and you will feel so much better,\u201d we\u2019re&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":367581,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[54],"tags":[88,15731,174261,57704,180529,8901,92],"class_list":["post-367580","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-tv","tag-entertainment","tag-finales","tag-lingering-questions","tag-pluribus","tag-pluribus-season-2","tag-spoilers","tag-tv"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/367580","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=367580"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/367580\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/367581"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=367580"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=367580"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=367580"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}