{"id":41832,"date":"2025-07-28T04:58:10","date_gmt":"2025-07-28T04:58:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/41832\/"},"modified":"2025-07-28T04:58:10","modified_gmt":"2025-07-28T04:58:10","slug":"what-publishers-want-to-see-from-a-google-ai-licensing-deal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/41832\/","title":{"rendered":"What publishers want to see from a Google AI licensing deal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>After years of scraping and stonewalling, Google is beginning to talk AI licensing with publishers. The shift has triggered a familiar mix of caution and resignation among media execs. They\u2019ve seen this before: overtures of partnership that quietly lead to more platform control.<\/p>\n<p>The timing isn\u2019t surprising. Amazon\u2019s deal with The New York Times <a href=\"https:\/\/digiday.com\/media\/amazon-and-the-new-york-times-ai-deal-signals-a-new-wave-of-publisher-partnerships\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">in June<\/a> added urgency to a space where publishers are already uneasy about how their content is being used to train AI systems.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Now Google is playing catch up, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2025-07-22\/google-seeks-licensing-talks-with-news-groups-following-ai-rivals\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">reportedly holding exploratory talks with around 20 publishers<\/a>. What comes of those talks is still a moving target. But the outlines of what publishers want are already clear. The demands are straightforward, if a little aspirational: real money, real transparency and \u2014 perhaps most elusive \u2014 a sense of control in a market that has rarely offered it.<\/p>\n<p>Digiday spoke with several publishers who broke it down into three core asks: meaningful revenue, clearer terms and a bit more control in a market that rarely gives it.<\/p>\n<p>Revenue that reflects value<\/p>\n<p>This one\u2019s as much about principle as payout.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Publishers have spent years feeding the machine \u2014 training the AI, populating the search results, keeping users engaged \u2014 while Google reaped the rewards. Any check now comes too late to feel fair, but it\u2019s still a line in the sand.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>As one commercial exec at a publisher put it: \u201cYou have to assume the [upfront check] is the last time you\u2019ll see that money.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s why hybrid deals \u2014 flat fees with variable upside tied to usage \u2014 are top of mind. They\u2019ve surfaced in other content licensing agreements, like OpenAI\u2019s deals with the Associated Press and Axel Springer, where payouts reflect not just access but continued use.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Without that, the core issue remains: AI Overviews and other products risk turning publishers into invisible suppliers \u2014 content creators cut off from the economics of their own work.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOn day one, it\u2019s fair to say that Google, OpenAI or whoever else it may be won\u2019t be making tons of money [from these days] but eventually they will and publishers should share in that upside over time and not be stuck in some crappy deal where the platform gets all the benefit,\u201d said\u00a0Paul Bannister, chief strategy officer at Raptive, which sells ads for independent sites.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, even a generous revenue share only goes so far. If visibility, attribution and traffic keep slipping, the money won\u2019t matter.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Control over how their content is used and surfaced<\/p>\n<p>Beyond compensation, publishers want agency: where and how their content shows up, and under what terms.\u00a0It\u2019s arguably the most important, and least guaranteed, part of these deals. And as they <a href=\"https:\/\/digiday.com\/media\/media-briefing-what-the-washington-posts-deal-with-openai-says-about-the-future-of-ai-content-licensing\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">shift from training data to real-time content ingestion<\/a>, that demand is only growing louder.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>As one publisher, who asked to remain anonymous given the sensitivity of the subject matter, explained: \u201cThe more we can understand how our data is being used by their AI algos, the better we can design going forward.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Until now, that transparency has been limited \u2014 frustratingly so. Publishers say they\u2019re often treated as if they\u2019re asking for something extraordinary when in reality, they\u2019re just asking for basic visibility into how their own content is being used.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>When it comes to Google, publishers are wary that they\u2019ll get the data they want. For more than a year, publishers <a href=\"https:\/\/digiday.com\/media\/one-year-in-seo-lessons-from-publishers-after-googles-ai-overviews\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">have been piecing together<\/a> how AI Overviews, the AI summaries in Google search, are impacting their referrals and visibility. Google doesn\u2019t break out that data in any of its analytics platforms.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis must change. We need access to data to understand how these changes are affecting our business,\u201d said Jacob Salamon, vp of business development at Trusted Media Brands. It\u2019s a demand he and other TMB teams he spoke with have stressed, including TMB\u2019s AI steering committee.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Needless to say, this part of the deal will be among the most closely watched. According to execs interviewed for this piece, publishers are asking for two things: APIs that allow real-time updates, corrections, standardized opt-outs and attribution protocols.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Lawsuits against AI companies (like the copyright infringement case The New York Times brought against OpenAI) could also reshape how these deals are structured going forward. The same goes for regulation.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe AI standards are evolving very, very rapidly,\u201d the commercial exec said. \u201cWhat may seem like a good deal today may not be a good deal in the future. There\u2019s a number of lawsuits that are out there that \u2014 pending their outcomes \u2014 could meaningfully change the way in which these types of deals get constructed.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Partnership terms that restore power and predictability<\/p>\n<p>Beyond money and content controls, publishers are looking for something harder to quantify: stability. For years, their relationships with tech platforms have been marked by volatility \u2014 opaque traffic patterns, unpredictable monetization and shifting rules. With AI, that instability could deepen. That\u2019s why some publishers have told Digiday they want to see more structured, renewable partnerships \u2014 ones that move beyond transactional licensing into longer-term alignment.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In fact, Salamon said TMB\u2019s \u201cdream alliance\u201d would be one built on radical transparency, shared value and co-development. That means not just getting paid, but being involved: having a say in how AI products are built, gaining real-time access to data and getting tools to manage how content flows through those systems. It\u2019s another key part of negotiations with AI licensing deals, publishing execs told Digiday.<\/p>\n<p>Other publishers want clearer legal protections, defined deal durations and visibility into what happens to their content once it\u2019s ingested. Is it used for training, for inference, or both? What rights do they retain at the end of the agreement?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In short, they want predictability in an unpredictable market. Not just a payout today but terms that can evolve alongside the technology so they\u2019re not caught flat-footed when the next shift comes. If they can\u2019t get that then publishers worry they\u2019re agreeing to partnerships in name only, with all the power still sitting on the other side of the table. It doesn\u2019t help that those same partners are also reshaping the search ecosystem in ways that are shrinking the traffic our altogether.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou\u2019re going to see the continuous erosion of human beings going to web pages to read articles,\u201d said Matt Prohaska, CEO and principal of Prohaska Consulting. These deals are \u201cgoing to be the next step in seeing which publishers are going to make it, and which aren\u2019t,\u201d Prohaska said.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"After years of scraping and stonewalling, Google is beginning to talk AI licensing with publishers. 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