{"id":540748,"date":"2026-03-23T16:51:10","date_gmt":"2026-03-23T16:51:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/540748\/"},"modified":"2026-03-23T16:51:10","modified_gmt":"2026-03-23T16:51:10","slug":"inside-the-turmoil-at-rfk-jr-s-cdc-as-told-by-current-and-former-employees","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/540748\/","title":{"rendered":"Inside the Turmoil at RFK Jr.\u2019s CDC, as Told by Current and Former Employees"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Almost as soon as he recaptured the White House, President-elect Trump announced that he was choosing Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to lead the Department of Health and Human Services. Kennedy, who had amassed a substantial following while spreading falsehoods about vaccines \u2014 first through his nonprofit, Children\u2019s Health Defense, and then through his Make America Healthy Again movement, or MAHA \u2014 endorsed Trump after ending his own presidential bid. Trump promised to let him \u201cgo wild on health.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Since his confirmation in February 2025, Kennedy has taken particular aim at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, a federal agency charged with safeguarding the nation\u2019s public health. He has called the C.D.C. \u201cthe most corrupt agency at H.H.S. and maybe the government\u201d and vigorously defended mass terminations carried out by Elon Musk\u2019s DOGE. At least 2,400 employees, or 18 percent of the C.D.C. staff, have been fired or have resigned since January 2025.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Kennedy has said that the C.D.C. \u2014 which comprises more than 20 centers focused on a wide range of public health issues, including infectious diseases, food-borne illness, substance abuse and violence prevention \u2014 had grown unwieldy and that its size was undermining its mission. As proof, he has cited the agency\u2019s failures during the coronavirus pandemic. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.yahoo.com\/news\/articles\/rfk-jr-says-covid-response-163719757.html?guccounter=1\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cWe literally did worse than any country in the world,\u201d<\/a> he said at a Senate hearing in September, \u201cand the people at C.D.C. who oversaw that process, who put masks on our children, who closed our schools, are the people who will be leaving.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Kennedy wants to move large parts of the agency to a new entity, the Administration for a Healthy America, while leaving the C.D.C. to focus on monitoring infectious diseases. The secretary\u2019s critics say that his real goal is not to reform the agency but to dismantle the nation\u2019s vaccination programs, in which the C.D.C. plays a key part.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">I interviewed more than 40 people who work at the C.D.C. or who left during Trump\u2019s second term. Some sources spoke on the condition of anonymity because they feared that speaking out would cost them their jobs or subject them to retaliation from the administration.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Many of them acknowledge that the agency\u2019s initial Covid response fell short: Its labs failed to develop reliable diagnostic tests, its communications were confusing and sometimes contradictory and its disease-surveillance efforts struggled to stay ahead of the virus\u2019s spread. But they say that the C.D.C. has made significant strides in the years since. Now, they argue, agency scientists are being sidelined, political appointees are taking charge and a vital public health institution is being remade into a vehicle for ideologues.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">In June, Kennedy fired all 17 voting members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, or ACIP, a group of doctors and scientists that meets several times a year to develop vaccine recommendations for the nation, and largely replaced them with people who share his views. The former C.D.C. director, Susan Monarez, says she was fired for refusing to approve any changes to vaccine recommendations without first seeing the scientific evidence behind them. (Kennedy has denied this.) Monarez was the only permanent director to lead the agency in the past year. She lasted just 29 days. No one has yet been nominated to succeed her.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">The Department of Health and Human Services did not make Kennedy available for an interview. In response to my requests for comment and a detailed list of questions, Andrew Nixon, a department spokesman, said in a statement: \u201cWithin a year, Secretary Kennedy restored the C.D.C. on its core mission of fighting infectious disease by eliminating mission creep and replacing leaders who resisted reform.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">I also reached out to the White House for comment. \u201cThe Trump administration is focused on restoring the public\u2019s trust and accountability in public health bodies like the C.D.C. by re-establishing Gold Standard Science as the only factor behind policymaking,\u201d a spokesman, Kush Desai, said in a statement.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">The civil servants who spoke to me worry that, instead, a century\u2019s worth of expertise is being lost \u2014 leaving Americans increasingly exposed to a wide range of health threats.<\/p>\n<p>November 14, 2024<\/p>\n<p>January 20, 2025<\/p>\n<p>January 22<\/p>\n<p>January 24<\/p>\n<p>January 30<\/p>\n<p>February 26<\/p>\n<p>March 25<\/p>\n<p>April 1<\/p>\n<p>April 10<\/p>\n<p>Mid- and late April <\/p>\n<p>May 14<\/p>\n<p>May 20-27<\/p>\n<p>June 9-25<\/p>\n<p>July 29<\/p>\n<p>August 8<\/p>\n<p>August 27<\/p>\n<p>September 4-17<\/p>\n<p>September 22<\/p>\n<p>November 20<\/p>\n<p>December 5-16<\/p>\n<p>January 5, 2026<\/p>\n<p>February 17<\/p>\n<p>March 16<\/p>\n<p>November 14, 2024<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> Anticipating his cabinet position as secretary of health and human services, Kennedy wrote on X, \u201cI look forward to working with the more than 80,000 employees at H.H.S. to free the agencies from the smothering cloud of corporate capture so they can pursue their mission to make Americans once again the healthiest people on Earth.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Debra Houry, former chief medical officer: I read Project 2025. I read the American Enterprise Institute reports. I read three of R.F.K. Jr.\u2019s books. I took notes. What are the criticisms? What are their recommendations? I sent them to each center that was impacted. I\u2019d say: Explain this to me. Is this true? How should we address this?<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">When I met with the Trump transition team, instead of doing the usual C.D.C. 101 to walk them through the budget and the programs, I framed it around the progress we had made since the first Trump administration. We put electronic case-reporting technology into tens of thousands of hospitals so that they could share data in real time. We built wastewater-monitoring programs to track potential outbreaks. And we were working with the private sector to scale up laboratory capacity.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Jonathan Mermin, former director of the National Center for H.I.V., Viral Hepatitis, S.T.D. and Tuberculosis Prevention: We had worked closely with Dr. Robert Redfield, who led the C.D.C. during the first Trump administration, to design and implement the Ending the H.I.V. Epidemic initiative, and we were very excited to share the results, because it was such a win-win. New infections went down, health equity improved and money was saved. We were hopeful they\u2019d want to continue that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Tom Simon, former senior director for scientific programs in the division of violence prevention: We anticipated it being rough, but the first Trump administration really wasn\u2019t that bad for our team. It was then that we got our first appropriations in many years for gun-violence-prevention research.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Government adviser: The thinking was that we could work on those who were most skeptical and try to bring them along. Maybe the C.D.C. wouldn\u2019t look exactly like it had when Mandy Cohen was director [during the Biden administration], but we could advance our priorities. Then there was a meeting with Kennedy and Matt Buzzelli, the C.D.C.\u2019s new chief of staff, and it went terribly \u2014 and not because of Matt. Matt went in with talking points about the value of the staff and how they\u2019re world experts. And the first thing Kennedy said was, \u201cHow do you know they\u2019re good people?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">(Matthew Buzzelli did not respond to a request for comment.)<\/p>\n<p>January 20, 2025<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> On his first day in office, Trump issued a flurry of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/01\/20\/us\/politics\/trump-transgender-race-education.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">executive orders<\/a>. One ended federal diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives, and another defended women against \u201cgender ideology extremism.\u201d C.D.C. staff members were told to scrub any references to identifying pronouns \u2014 and terms including \u201ctransgender\u201d and \u201cpregnant people\u201d \u2014 from the agency\u2019s website. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/interactive\/2025\/03\/07\/us\/trump-federal-agencies-websites-words-dei.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Hundreds of other words<\/a>, including \u201cdiversity,\u201d \u201chealth equity,\u201d \u201cdisparity,\u201d \u201ctrauma\u201d and \u201cwomen,\u201d were also flagged. Entire pages were quickly taken offline in an effort to meet compliance deadlines.<\/p>\n<p>President Trump signing executive orders on his first day back in the White House in January 2025. Evan Vucci\/Associated Press<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Debra Houry, former chief medical officer: The guidance we were given by our political leaders was to err on the side of caution and overinterpret these executive orders. We took down some of the immunization information on Mpox because it had the word \u201ctransgender\u201d in it. Then we were asked by H.H.S. and our political leadership at C.D.C. to put it back up because Kennedy was about to go through his confirmation hearing. They were concerned it would look like there were questions around his support of vaccines.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Meanwhile, the things that we would want the C.D.C. to do \u2014 like helping states respond to outbreaks or implementing various public health programs \u2014 were not really happening because so much of the agency\u2019s time was being spent on scrubbing the website. Somebody from the H.H.S. communications team said, \u201cWell, don\u2019t you do this every four years, changing the priorities and things like that?\u201d I said, \u201cScience doesn\u2019t change based on who is in office. \u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Tom Simon, former senior director for scientific programs in the division of violence prevention: There was an executive order about defending the Second Amendment that called on the attorney general\u2019s office to examine how federal agencies interfered with gun owners\u2019 rights. Political appointees from H.H.S. sent us a blank spreadsheet and asked us to fill in which of our programs interfered with gun rights. I told them we only evaluated prevention strategies to see if they worked; we had no authority to regulate or prohibit anything.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">They took down the first-ever surgeon-general advisory on firearm violence, written by Vivek Murthy, the surgeon general who served under Obama, Biden and the first Trump administration. You\u2019re trying to move the field forward, and you start to see very quickly that \u2014 wow, we are not just losing momentum; we are going backward.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Jonathan Mermin, former director of the National Center for H.I.V., Viral Hepatitis, S.T.D. and Tuberculosis Prevention: It seemed like someone had just run an A.I. algorithm to find any program with the word \u201cequity\u201d in it. You couldn\u2019t even say that certain populations are more likely to get H.I.V. or sexually transmitted infections. When you explain the concept of health equity to people who are against D.E.I., most would say health equity is still consistent with what they consider appropriate work. But we did not have that chance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Maternal H.I.V. specialist: Some of the changes the executive orders required didn\u2019t really affect the work. You change \u201cdiversity\u201d to \u201cvariety,\u201d but you\u2019re still doing the same thing. But \u201cgender-based violence\u201d was really hard. \u201cSex-based violence\u201d sounds like sexual violence, and gender-based violence is not always sexual in nature. The idea of gender-based violence is that there are gender roles and gender dynamics that lead to violence. If you can\u2019t acknowledge that there is such a thing as gender, it\u2019s really hard to talk about.<\/p>\n<p>January 22<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/01\/22\/health\/trump-health-communications.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">acting director of H.H.S. issued a directive<\/a> that all public communications had to be reviewed by a presidential appointee or designee before being released. As a result, C.D.C. meetings were canceled, the publication of research data was delayed and C.D.C. staff members were told that they could not speak in any official capacity. The administration described this as a short pause so new staff members could establish communication priorities. The directive was officially lifted after 10 days, but C.D.C. employees say the effects of the strictures lingered for months.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Daniel Jernigan, former director of the National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases: You had the president and whoever else saying, \u201cStop talking.\u201d I think what they probably meant was, \u201cDon\u2019t engage publicly or in a high-profile way.\u201d But you had a whole new layer of people with no public health experience, no government experience and no scientific knowledge, and they didn\u2019t know what to do. And so everybody was told: \u201cDon\u2019t engage. You can\u2019t even get on the phone.\u201d If you said: \u201cWell, we have an outbreak right now of X, Y, Z. I should be talking to them.\u201d They\u2019d say, \u201cWell, OK, but only for that outbreak.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Karen Hacker, former director of the National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion: A big part of being a senior leader is going into the field, doing site visits, talking with Congress. And to have all of that curtailed leaves you where you literally can\u2019t do your job.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Epidemiologist: They took control of all our communications. There was a Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report that came out on Feb. 27 on cervical cancer trends. In response to a standard question from a reporter, one author said that one of the best ways to prevent cervical cancer is to get the HPV vaccine. And H.H.S. edited it, adding a message to the effect of \u201cvaccines are a matter of choice, and you should talk to your doctor,\u201d attributing it to the scientist without telling her. Thank God somebody alerted her before it went out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Elizabeth Soda, medical officer for immigrant and refugee health: There was a lot of obeying in advance from some people within C.D.C., who were pre-emptively telling us not to do things. Depending on what division or branch you were in, what you could or couldn\u2019t communicate was potentially very different. The worst part of it was just never knowing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Maternal H.I.V. specialist: No one wanted to put anything in writing because there was the idea that DOGE people were looking at chats and calls. Many people were leaving their laptops in their garage because they thought their computers were recording them. We would walk outside to take phone calls.<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-zze1ua\">\u2018Most of the people they were bringing in did not have any public health experience. Some of them did not have any health experience at all.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Karen Hacker, former center director, chronic diseases<\/p>\n<p>January 24<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> The Trump administration <a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/goats-and-soda\/2025\/01\/24\/g-s1-44643\/trump-foreign-aid-assistance-pause\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">issued a formal stop-work order for virtually all foreign aid<\/a>, including funds disbursed by the United States Agency for International Development (or U.S.A.I.D.). It had also begun the process of formally withdrawing the United States from the World Health Organization. The C.D.C.\u2019s global health initiatives relied heavily on funding from U.S.A.I.D. and collaboration with the W.H.O.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Daniel Jernigan, former director of the National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases: There was no understanding of the connectivities between the U.S. government and W.H.O. There was magical thinking that you could build a bilateral set of relationships that would take care of what W.H.O. is doing. For flu, we had 57 different bilateral cooperative agreements with countries. But to make things happen, we went through W.H.O., because they have the ability to bring people together. Without W.H.O. involved, there\u2019s an uncertainty among some nations about whether or not to work with the United States at all.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Ebola is one example of how this works. Do we hear about cases because we have given money to a country\u2019s ministry of health and they\u2019re required to let us know? No. We hear about them because we have people who are doing contract services out in the forest or we\u2019ve got people who have spent 15 years working on the same projects. The loss of that soft surveillance is really significant.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">C.D.C. also did a lot of work on malaria through U.S.A.I.D., and that work was all stopped. We already have some 2,500 traveler-acquired malaria cases in the United States, and two years ago we had 10 cases of local transmission. Those numbers will increase now, and the costs of dealing with malaria will go up, especially in places like Florida, Puerto Rico and Texas.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Susan A. Wang, former senior medical adviser in the global immunization division: When Trump tried to withdraw from W.H.O. in 2020, about a dozen of us from C.D.C. who were stationed at W.H.O.\u2019s headquarters in Geneva and asked to get on a conference call by the State Department. I thought they were going to make us leave right away. But they hadn\u2019t realized they needed to give a year\u2019s notice before they could withdraw.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">This time they knew what they were doing. We had a couple dozen C.D.C. staff members in cities around the world, embedded with W.H.O. We were told that within 24 hours they could no longer report to their W.H.O. offices, could no longer use the W.H.O. computers or phones or even communicate with their W.H.O. co-workers. If you\u2019re a regional W.H.O. office and one or two of your eight experts are from the U.S. C.D.C., that could be a quarter of your human resources gone in 24 hours.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Maternal H.I.V. specialist: About a week after foreign aid was stopped, the State Department issued an emergency humanitarian waiver for lifesaving services, which led to a bajillion meetings about what you could and couldn\u2019t do. It\u2019s tricky because you might have a nurse doing multiple things, but only certain things were covered by the waiver.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Then a federal <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/2025\/02\/13\/foreign-aid-funding-trump-administration-00204289\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">judge temporarily halted the funding freeze.<\/a> We were told to ignore the waiver and proceed as we normally would. But that edict was only for H.H.S. and C.D.C., not U.S.A.I.D. Meanwhile, a lot of the groups we partnered with began firing staff because they weren\u2019t getting funds and because of all the uncertainty.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">The administration also began trying to change PEPFAR [the President\u2019s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, established in 2003 by President George W. Bush] from something that\u2019s funded through Congress every year into something that\u2019s based on country-by-country deals. So instead of \u201cHere is the money you need to fight H.I.V.,\u201d it\u2019s \u201cWe\u2019ll give you this H.I.V. money, but what mineral rights can you give us?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-zze1ua\">\u2018It was like being in \u201cThe Wizard of Oz\u201d and discovering that there is no man behind the curtain.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Susan A. Wang, former senior medical adviser, global immunization<\/p>\n<p>January 30<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> At his Senate confirmation hearing, Kennedy said he wanted \u201cgold standard\u201d science to set the nation\u2019s health policy and was open to being proved wrong. He also insisted that despite his work for Children\u2019s Health Defense \u2014 supporting lawsuits against vaccine makers and promoting vaccine disinformation \u2014 he was not anti-vaccine. \u201cI support the measles vaccine,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/01\/29\/us\/politics\/rfk-jr-confirmation-hearing-takeaways.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">he said<\/a>. \u201cI support the polio vaccine. I will do nothing as H.H.S. secretary that makes it difficult or discourages people from taking it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Robert F. Kennedy Jr. at his Senate confirmation hearing for secretary of health and human services in January 2025. He affirmed his support for vaccines despite being a leader of the anti-vaccine movement. Kenny Holston\/The New York Times<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Government adviser: There was a big meeting to help him prepare for his hearings, and one goal was to get him riled up and teach him to stay calm and collected under questioning. And he had no interest in that or in listening to expertise. For instance, people tried to explain what ACIP was and why some of the things he was saying didn\u2019t make sense. He wanted to address vaccine safety by changing ACIP. But the initial safety determination is made by F.D.A. not C.D.C. Instead of listening, he just said, \u201cNo, you\u2019re wrong.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Daniel Jernigan, former director of the National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases: We were all avidly following the hearings. And we were encouraged when Kennedy said that he was going to leave his presuppositions at the door and work collaboratively with scientists and epidemiologists and others. But we never heard from him after that.<\/p>\n<p>February 26<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> An unvaccinated child in West Texas became the first to die from measles in an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/02\/26\/us\/texas-measles-outbreak-death.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">outbreak<\/a> that had been spreading for months across the region. In cabinet meetings and television appearances, Kennedy downplayed the outbreak as \u201cnot unusual.\u201d He did not outline what steps his department was taking to contain it, and instead of promoting vaccination as a means of preventing infection, he recommended a range of unproven treatments, including cod-liver oil and antibiotics.<\/p>\n<p>Measles testing was available in a hospital parking lot in Seminole, Texas, in February 2025 amid the outbreak in the region. Jan Sonnenmair\/Getty Images<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Debra Houry, former chief medical officer: We did get the secretary to put out some tweets that were positive about vaccination. But while speaking to the media, he would talk about deaths from vaccines, saying things like, \u201cI understand why some parents don\u2019t want to inject their children with fetal parts.\u201d I said to our political leadership: \u201cI really want the secretary to be successful. However, when <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/the-mmr-vaccine-doesnt-contain-aborted-fetus-debris-as-rfk-jr-has-claimed-heres-the-science-255718\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">he says that there are fetal parts in vaccines,<\/a> it doesn\u2019t help him look like he knows what he\u2019s talking about. So how can we ensure he has the talking points that he needs?\u201d And one person in the team said, \u201cI thought there were fetal parts in the vaccine.\u201d I said, \u201cNo, there are not.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Demetre C. Daskalakis, former director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases: Kennedy\u2019s deputies would come and talk to C.D.C. in this very kumbaya way: \u201cWe really love you all. We think you\u2019re so amazing. Talk to us, and we\u2019ll make sure that we can make things happen.\u201d And every time they did that, I would say: \u201cWe\u2019ve never briefed the secretary. We would love the opportunity to talk to him about vaccine-preventable diseases, about measles, about flu, about Covid.\u201d And they would say: \u201cWell, thank you so much. Just reach out.\u201d And then when we reached out, we would just get crickets.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Kennedy then went, unbriefed, to his first cabinet meeting and got the numbers wrong on measles. We\u2019d had one death at that point, and he said there were two. We went into a tailspin, reaching out to every jurisdiction to figure out if there had been a second death. There hadn\u2019t. Then he said that measles outbreaks were not a big deal. I\u2019ve never seen my team look so deflated.<\/p>\n<p>March 25<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> After being appointed acting C.D.C. director by Trump in late January, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/03\/24\/health\/cdc-director-monarez.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Susan Monarez, an infectious-disease researcher, was officially nominated to lead the agency<\/a>. She would be the first prospective director required to secure Senate confirmation, owing to new rules established during the Biden administration. She would also be the first director in more than 70 years without a medical degree.<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\">While her confirmation was pending, she stepped away from her position as acting director, as required. But her brief tenure had coincided with a round of firings and executive orders that left agency employees rattled and deeply skeptical of her leadership.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Government adviser: Susan had been under an enormous amount of pressure to give H.H.S. a plan for dismantling the agency. They wanted to fold everything except infectious diseases into a new, so-called Administration for a Healthy America. She managed to extract promises that they weren\u2019t going to dismantle chronic disease, even if it moved.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">But the real driver was Rachel Riley, DOGE\u2019s representative at C.D.C. When they were firing people, Riley would print out spreadsheets and say, \u201cOK, tell me the names of the people you want to stay, and I am getting rid of everyone else.\u201d She would say, \u2018Do this, this and this in the next 12 hours\u201d or \u201cthe next 20 hours\u201d \u2014 which, if you are new to the agency, is just the dumbest way. It led to things like NIOSH [the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health] being eliminated without anyone thinking of the consequences. And then when things went wrong, they would get mad. \u201cWhy did this happen?\u201d And it\u2019s like, \u201cWell, you put a gun to our heads.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">(Rachel Riley could not be reached for comment.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Abby Tighe, former public health adviser in the division of overdose prevention: There were a lot of conflicted feelings about Susan. On one hand, she had a clear commitment to public service. On the other, she seemed quite aligned with Kennedy and with the R.I.F.s [reductions in force] that had already happened. But we wanted to give her a chance. So we pulled together all these questions that we had about her and gave them to the senators who were going to vote on her confirmation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Health scientist: Monarez had been our acting director for some time, and we never knew if she was on campus. Meanwhile, we were seeing more and more political appointees coming in and career staff leaving. We assumed she was just going to be a rubber stamp for whatever the administration was about to do.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">(Monarez declined to comment.)<\/p>\n<p>April 1<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> The administration <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/04\/01\/us\/politics\/trump-federal-layoffs-health-food.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">laid off thousands<\/a> of federal health workers, including at the C.D.C. offices devoted to sexually transmitted diseases, workplace safety and violence prevention, among other projects, suffered heavy losses. Kennedy said his goal was to shrink the agency to a few departments focused on infectious-disease monitoring and to shift all other programs to the proposed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hhs.gov\/press-room\/hhs-restructuring-doge.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Administration for a Healthy America.<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/story\/news\/politics\/2025\/05\/14\/rfk-jr-hhs-cuts-hearing-takeaways\/83599115007\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">When he was later called to testify before Congress<\/a> about the large cuts to H.H.S., he said: \u201cWe are under a <a href=\"https:\/\/storage.courtlistener.com\/recap\/gov.uscourts.cand.448664\/gov.uscourts.cand.448664.85.0.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">court order<\/a> not to do any further planning on the reorganization, and I\u2019ve been advised by my attorneys not to comment. But I will just say broadly, many of the programs that the Democrats are now saying were cut at the C.D.C. were not cut at all.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Demonstrators showing their support for the C.D.C. outside its Atlanta headquarters after layoffs were announced last April. Ben Gray\/Associated Press<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Debra Houry, former chief medical officer: I called every one of my center directors together, including those who were being fired that day, and we walked through all their programs. Do we have people deployed overseas that we have to be concerned about? What data systems are shutting down? And I just had a pit in my stomach. At the end, I cried. You think about programs that are needed for the nation that are just going away.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Vi Le, behavioral scientist for violence prevention: I did research on sexual violence and how to prevent it. We had programs that were proven effective, over and over, at reducing multiple forms of violence, including teen-dating violence, bullying, sexual violence. We had rape-prevention programs. Three out of four branches were basically wiped out. Entire programmatic areas, things that were congressionally mandated, just gone.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Aryn Melton Backus, former health communications specialist in the Office on Smoking and Health: At one point, somebody had gotten on a whiteboard, and as news of different programs came in, they were making a list of the ones that got cut. That was the main way we knew who had been fired, because H.H.S. would not release a list of all the programs that they cut. I was in disbelief. We thought that because Secretary Kennedy wanted to focus on chronic illness, the Office on Smoking and Health would be untouched. But they got rid of it completely.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Sherri Zobel, former public health adviser for newborn screening: C.D.C.\u2019s newborn-screening program has been helping laboratories around the world test for hereditary diseases in infants since the 1960s. Our blood tests are now so routine that just about every newborn in the United States, and in most of the developed world, has had one. The tests make it possible to identify congenital disorders so that you can treat them right away and prevent \u2014 or minimize \u2014 the worst symptoms. In 2025, we lost about 40 percent of our staff.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Karen Hacker, former director of the National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion: It wasn\u2019t simply the top group being removed and replaced or political appointees being brought in. It was really this very deep shift. Most of the people they were bringing in did not have any public health experience. Some of them did not have any health experience at all.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Tom Simon, former senior director for scientific programs in the division of violence prevention: I\u2019m supportive of government efficiency, but if you\u2019re taking over a new company, you work with the people in leadership positions to help you understand where you can cut. There are ways to do it that are ethical but also in the best interest of efficiency. Instead, it was: Fire everybody first, and then sort it out later.<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-zze1ua\">\u2018Entire programmatic areas, things that were congressionally mandated, just gone.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Vi Le, behavioral scientist, violence prevention<\/p>\n<p>April 10<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> Kennedy vowed to find the cause of autism by September. H.H.S. promised to leave \u201cno stone unturned\u201d in determining why the disorder is on the rise. A few weeks earlier, Kennedy hired <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/03\/27\/health\/rfk-jr-autism-vaccines.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">David Geier<\/a>, a prominent vaccine skeptic who was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mbp.state.md.us\/BPQAPP\/orders\/GeierOrder07.302.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">sanctioned by the Maryland State Board of Physicians in 2012<\/a> for treating autistic patients without a medical license, to lead this effort. Geier has no medical degree or scientific credentials, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/03\/27\/health\/rfk-jr-autism-vaccines.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">his research has been widely discredited.<\/a> Kennedy <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/SecKennedy\/status\/1931360039496712222\" rel=\"nofollow\">defended Geier in a post on X.<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\">Most experts agree that the increased incidence of autism is largely due to expanded diagnostic criteria and better overall reporting, and that autism itself is most likely caused by a mix of factors, including genetic and environmental ones. But Kennedy and Geier say that vaccine ingredients like the preservative thimerosal are the culprits.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Abby Tighe, former public health adviser in the division of overdose prevention: There was a lot of frustration that the administration was cutting research \u2014 into environmental exposures, into chronic health conditions, birth defects, etc. \u2014 and then you have Kennedy acting like there hadn\u2019t been people trying to understand the rise in autism. The difference was that the scientists were focused on where the research led them. And R.F.K. was focused on an outcome. He wants to say vaccines cause autism, and he\u2019s working backward from there. And that is not how science works.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Elizabeth Soda, medical officer for immigrant and refugee health: To an average person, that sounds amazing. Like, finally, this guy is going to get to the bottom of things! But to make a claim that in four or five months you are going to find the cause proves that Kennedy has no idea what he\u2019s doing. No scientist would ever make a statement like that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Daniel Jernigan, former director of the National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases: It started with a call from Susan Monarez, saying: \u201cHey, we\u2019re going to be looking at autism. Let\u2019s think big, and I\u2019d like you to work with immunization and birth defects and so on.\u201d So we put together a research agenda. Then I got an email from her connecting me to David Geier, which was frankly very concerning. I asked Deb Houry and Matt Buzzelli, the chief of staff at H.H.S., what they knew about this. And Matt said: \u201cDon\u2019t worry. We\u2019ll take care of it.\u201d Then we were asked to turn over data sets from before 2001.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">That data requires a data use agreement to be signed, because it contains sensitive identifying patient information, much of which has nothing to do with autism. But H.H.S. counsel insisted that Geier didn\u2019t have to sign because he was acting as a direct agent of the secretary. And that led to a back-and-forth. But instead of getting a call from another scientist or administrator, it was all done through lawyers, with emails that say, \u201cAttorney-client privilege, not for sharing.\u201d That means all of it is now protected from FOIA [Freedom of Information Act] requests.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">We ended up setting up a special computer for Geier, where he could access the data but not remove it. I think he and Kennedy believed strongly that C.D.C. was covering up the autism connection by hiding information contained in that data. But when they got in there, they realized, Oh, this data is useless, which we had told them all along. It\u2019s not the type of data that\u2019s going to tell you the cause of autism.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">(David Geier did not respond to a request for comment. According to Nixon, the Health and Human Services Department spokesman, Geier signed a data-use agreement in July.)<\/p>\n<p>Mid- and late April <\/p>\n<p>A funeral procession in Seminole, Texas, after the second measles death in the state last April. Annie Rice\/Associated Press<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Fiona Havers, former medical epidemiologist in the respiratory viruses division: It\u2019s not a coincidence that the high number of measles cases and the fact that we may lose our measles-elimination status coincide with the first year that a leader of the anti-vaccine movement has been overseeing the nation\u2019s health agencies. They\u2019re out there talking about the often spurious harms of vaccines while saying nothing at all about the very real dangers of the diseases that vaccines prevent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Demetre C. Daskalakis, former director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases: Even as the outbreak grew, R.F.K. was still just praising the doctors who were giving <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/seckennedy\/status\/1909049021211263268?s=46\" rel=\"nofollow\">snake-oil treatments<\/a> like budesonide, a corticosteroid, and clarithromycin, an antibiotic, to kids with measles and saying how they saved hundreds of lives, which was absolute garbage. We were asked to add those treatments to the measles guidelines. We managed to mitigate that by including the words on the guidelines but saying that none of these were proven. Giving people the wrong medicines delayed lots of care for lots of kids.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Meanwhile, we were learning about pivotal things related to the outbreak by watching the Children\u2019s Health Defense website. Whatever they said, he would repeat. Back in 2018 and 2019, when I was at the New York City health department, we were trying to control a measles outbreak in the Hasidic communities. The Children\u2019s Health Defense backed a lawsuit against vaccine mandates. It felt like the people who had once sued us were now running the entire country\u2019s health department.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Susan A. Wang, former senior medical adviser in the global immunization division: C.D.C. was still tracking the cases and communicating with states. But it was not clear if they were intervening beyond that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">As a pediatrician, I was not getting any of the alerts or communications that I normally would. Normally, C.D.C. would be bringing communities, health providers, health departments together to try and stamp it out. There would be weekly conference calls and a shared sense of emergency. And there would be constant reminders about what each group, including the general public, needed to do to combat the threat. The federal government was not doing any of that.<\/p>\n<p>May 14<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> In his first <a href=\"https:\/\/insidemedicine.substack.com\/p\/breaking-rfk-jr-says-matthew-buzzelli\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Senate hearing<\/a> since taking office, Kennedy defended the mass layoffs across H.H.S. in heated exchanges with Democrats. When he was asked who was leading the C.D.C., he named Matthew Buzzelli, the chief of staff. <a href=\"https:\/\/insidemedicine.substack.com\/p\/scoop-cdc-has-no-acting-director\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">According to employees, the agency<\/a> had been leaderless since Monarez stepped away in late March, pending her Senate confirmation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Debra Houry, former chief medical officer: I started to worry that nobody was really in charge and that none of them knew what was happening. The political appointees were still shutting things down and trying to move random divisions into this new Administration for a Healthy America, which didn\u2019t even exist.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">I kept flagging that there\u2019s a mine, a missile silo and toxic chemicals that they use for experiments that need to be dealt with as part of any NIOSH transition. I never got an answer. NIOSH also had a lot of lab animals. Their entire West Virginia campus had been shut down and their veterinarian had been fired, and we had a limited amount of time to transfer or euthanize the animals before we were out of compliance with animal-safety laws. We sent it up to H.H.S. so many times, and I even verbally briefed them. Eventually, we sent a note saying, \u201cIf we don\u2019t hear back by 1 p.m., we\u2019re going to have to do an emergency shutdown.\u201d And we didn\u2019t hear back. And so we had to euthanize many animals. (According to Nixon, the department spokesman, \u201cby April 25, 2025, C.D.C. transferred 627 laboratory mice and 7 laboratory rats to other institutions and all remaining animals, total 321, were euthanized.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Susan A. Wang, former senior medical adviser in the global immunization division: We would have divisionwide meetings and centerwide meetings. And the staff would ask a series of questions. But none of our managers or leaders could get answers. It was like being in \u201cThe Wizard of Oz\u201d and discovering that there is no man behind the curtain.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Historically, whenever we got any kind of instructions, there would be an email signature with a name, a title and a note about who to contact with questions. But from January on, a lot of it looked like spam, and a lot of things were coming from the Office of Personnel Management, not C.D.C. or H.H.S.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">At some point, C.D.C. appointees told us that we could not put our qualifications in our email signatures anymore. We couldn\u2019t say if we were an M.D. or a M.P.H. or a Ph.D. Nobody explained why. We were also told by our managers that on some topics you could only communicate verbally going forward, which is the opposite of what we have been trained to do. As a C.D.C. employee, you get annual trainings on FOIA and record keeping. All of a sudden it was like a complete withdrawal of that. It was really frightening and eerie.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Abby Tighe, former public health adviser in the division of overdose prevention: We had formed an advocacy group, called Fired but Fighting, to draw lawmakers\u2019 attention to the things our colleagues were telling us they couldn\u2019t speak publicly about \u2014 things that were going unnoticed because the agency had no real leader. Milwaukee had a lead crisis in their schools, and they made a standard request for assistance from C.D.C., and the request was ignored for weeks, and then declined, because the entire lead team had been fired. In May, there was still no lead team on the ground in Milwaukee. We got the media to bring that to light, and the team was reinstated in June. <\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">(According to the health department, no requests were ignored.)<\/p>\n<p>May 20-27<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> The F.D.A. commissioner, Martin Makary, and Vinay Prasad, the director of the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, published a new framework for coronavirus vaccines in The New England Journal of Medicine, indicating that only certain groups \u2014 people over 65 and others with health conditions that put them at a higher risk for severe illness \u2014 should receive the shot. A week later, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/05\/27\/health\/covid-vaccines-children-pregnant-women-rfk-jr.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">in a video posted on X, Kennedy announced<\/a> that the United States would no longer recommend coronavirus vaccines for healthy children or healthy pregnant women.<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\">The announcements upended longstanding public health norms: Neither the secretary nor the commissioner had consulted with C.D.C. scientists, and ACIP had not held any public hearings on the changes. They also contradicted one another: Kennedy said that healthy pregnant women should not receive the vaccine; Makary and Prasad indicated that they should.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Fiona Havers, former medical epidemiologist in the respiratory viruses division: Our data shows clearly that children younger than 2 who get Covid are vulnerable. Their immune systems and lungs are not fully developed, and their Covid hospitalization rates continue to be high, even when they are otherwise healthy. The people at F.D.A. used my data but lumped all 0- to 4-year-olds together to say that for healthy kids, the risks from Covid are low. They missed all the nuance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Debra Houry, former chief medical officer: I saw a note from one of R.F.K.\u2019s policy directors saying, \u201cYou know, pregnancy shouldn\u2019t be on the website as a risk factor for Covid.\u201d And I thought, I can\u2019t change science for you.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Demetre C. Daskalakis, former director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases: I was sitting in a meeting of C.D.C. leadership, and my phone started to buzz with messages saying, \u201cDid you see the changes to the childhood <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aafp.org\/family-physician\/patient-care\/prevention-wellness\/immunizations-vaccines\/immunization-schedules\/birth-through-age-18-immunization-schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">vaccine schedule<\/a>?\u201d I did not know what they were talking about, and the childhood vaccine schedule lives under my center.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">The political appointees told us to change the schedule based on Kennedy\u2019s video. I told them that if it\u2019s a secretarial directive to put it on paper. They promised to send supporting documents. We got two pages that differed from what the video said. The video said that no healthy kids or healthy pregnant women should get the vaccine for Covid. The memo said that no healthy children and no pregnant women \u2014 period \u2014 should get the vaccine. We had no idea what the justification was, because our own data did not support those statements. I went through the general counsel at C.D.C. and H.H.S. trying to get additional data, and they flat out refused to share it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">We had let all the organizations that previously endorsed the schedule \u2014 the Infectious Diseases Society of America, the American Academy of Pediatrics and so on \u2014 know that we were going to temporarily remove their names and would reach out to see if they wanted to be added back once they saw the changes. When they saw the changes, every one of them said, \u201cNo, thank you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>June 9-25<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> Kennedy <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/06\/09\/health\/rfk-jr-cdc-vaccine-panel.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">fired all 17 voting members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices<\/a>, claiming that they were <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hhs.gov\/press-room\/hhs-restore-public-trust-vaccines-acip.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u201ca rubber stamp for industry profit-taking agendas.\u201d<\/a> A few days later, he announced eight replacements, most of whom were outspoken vaccine skeptics. The fired committee members and the relevant C.D.C. directors found out about the changes through word of mouth or on social media.<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\">At their first meeting, the newly installed advisory committee <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/06\/26\/health\/rfk-jr-vaccines-acip-cdc.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">rescinded recommendations for any flu vaccines that contained the preservative thimerosal<\/a>, without consulting staff scientists or inviting them to speak about it. Agency scientists had posted a report on ACIP\u2019s web pages summarizing the evidence that shows thimerosal to be safe. Political appointees at the C.D.C. quickly ordered that the report be removed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\">The committee would go on to change several additional vaccine recommendations, including for the coronavirus, hepatitis B and M.M.R.V. (measles, mumps, rubella and varicella), without consulting agency staff members.<\/p>\n<p>Demonstrators rallying outside C.D.C. headquarters last June after all 17 voting members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices were fired by Kennedy. Melissa Golden for The New York Times<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Fiona Havers, former medical epidemiologist in the respiratory viruses division: I got a text from my team\u2019s deputy that all of ACIP had just been fired. And I thought, I guess my career at C.D.C. is done. I didn\u2019t want to be part of any machine that they were going to use to spread false information about vaccines or to take vaccines away.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Debra Houry, former chief medical officer: When we used to talk about potential new ACIP members, you would look at: OK, we need somebody from the Midwest who has a background in immunocompromised people. That was the level you would get down to. With the new committee, they eliminated not only most of the expertise but also that deep bench. And you could see the impact of that loss right away.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">We found out that they were going to discuss thimerosal as well as M.M.R.V at the next ACIP meeting. The scientists were proactive and developed evidence summaries and posted them. We flagged both documents for the political appointees, noting that they had gone through scientific clearance and were on the ACIP website.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">The day of the meeting, we were told that the thimerosal document had to come down; the M.M.R.V. one did not. And I think it was because the M.M.R.V. document mentioned febrile seizures [a rare and temporary side effect]. But the thimerosal one had nothing in it to support the secretary\u2019s intention to remove it. Afterward, about 20 of us had to meet with the lawyers to find out if by putting both documents up we were being subversive. After that, staff were really worried about their jobs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">(According to the health department, C.D.C. staff members did not go through the proper procedures to upload the documents on the website.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Susan A. Wang, former senior medical adviser in the global immunization division: I started witnessing extraordinary levels of fear among management and staff whom I respected. At the first ACIP meeting with the new panel, I was astounded to find nobody else there except the media and a few C.D.C. experts slated to speak. Normally that room would be filled with C.D.C. scientists. Apparently some of the centers told their staff not to come in person. Some security people tried to stop me, but when I opened the door, there were reporters on the other side, so they backed off. <\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">(The health department denies that security was preventing people from entering.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Vaccine specialist: Our vaccine team decided that in the unlikely event that ACIP even wanted to hear from us, only our division director would be made available. Anti-vaxxers have been known to dox people. And we really wanted to protect our staff.<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-zze1ua\">\u2018I didn\u2019t want to be part of any machine that they were going to use to spread false information about vaccines or to take vaccines away.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Fiona Havers, former medical epidemiologist, respiratory viruses<\/p>\n<p>July 29<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/07\/29\/us\/politics\/susan-monarez-cdc-director.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Senate confirmed Susan Monarez<\/a> as C.D.C. director. During her hearing, Monarez was clear in her support for vaccines and fluoridated drinking water (which medical consensus supports but Kennedy has opposed). But she also did not oppose the secretary\u2019s plans to shrink the C.D.C. and move many of its operations to his proposed Administration for a Healthy America. Every Democratic senator and both independents voted against her confirmation, citing concerns over her willingness to defend the agency against political interference. After swearing her in, Kennedy <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/media\/releases\/2025\/2025-secretary-kennedy-swears-in-susan-monarez-as-cdc-director-to-advance-make-america-healthy-again.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">called her<\/a> \u201ca public health expert with unimpeachable scientific credentials\u201d and said that he had \u201cfull confidence\u201d in her ability to restore trust at the agency.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Demetre C. Daskalakis, former director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases: When Susan was confirmed, I had a little glimmer of hope. She was trying to find a middle ground on vaccines \u2014 changes to ACIP that might improve transparency while also protecting ethics and scientific integrity.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Epidemiologist: For me and my colleagues who didn\u2019t have the kind of access that Deb and some of the C.D.C. directors had to her, we continued to be very suspicious. And for me, part of it was the lack of communication. We hadn\u2019t heard anything from her as acting director. And so we didn\u2019t know who she represented. And then when she finally did speak to us, she came across as very aloof.<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-zze1ua\">\u2018We thought that because Secretary Kennedy wanted to focus on chronic illness, the Office on Smoking and Health would be untouched. But they got rid of it completely.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Aryn Melton Backus, former communications specialist, smoking and health<\/p>\n<p>August 8<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> A man <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/08\/09\/us\/politics\/cdc-shooting-staff.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">opened fire<\/a> on the C.D.C. headquarters in Atlanta, killing a police officer, David Rose, and penetrating the main building\u2019s glass facade, forcing staff members to shelter in place and sending the campus into a lockdown that would last until after dark. The gunman, who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, was convinced that a coronavirus vaccine had harmed him. Neither Trump nor Kennedy addressed staff members that day, and Trump has never publicly condemned the attack. (Kush Desai said in a statement that \u201cthe notion that the White House did not respond to the C.D.C. shooting is false.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>C.D.C. headquarters after a gunman opened fire on the campus last August. Elijah Nouvelage\/Getty Images<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Daniel Jernigan, former director of the National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases: At first we thought the noise was construction. Then my associate director for laboratory science, whose husband is in the building next to us, said: \u201cMy husband says the building\u2019s shaking. He thinks it\u2019s an active shooter.\u201d You could see fire trucks blocking traffic in both directions. As we realized what was happening, we headed to a shelter-in-place spot.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">A total of about 500 bullets were discharged in about 15 minutes, and about 180 marks were found on the buildings. We were there until about 11 p.m. or midnight. They had to go through every floor, and if a door was locked, they had to break it open. There were people who had been hiding for the entire time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Tom Simon, former senior director for scientific programs in the division of violence prevention: A physician I know was leaving campus and heard the gunshots. She saw him reloading his rifle and open fire again. She was driving away, crouching down in her car, waiting to hear a bullet come through her rear windshield. And she was trying to text her colleagues back at the office that there was a guy spraying bullets. This guy really was intent on killing a lot of people. It was an attack on a federal campus, and President Trump has yet to even acknowledge it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Debra Houry, former chief medical officer: I had left 10 minutes earlier because my child had a birthday party to go to. The C.D.C. chief of staff, Matt Buzzelli, called me and said, \u201cWe\u2019re getting reports that somebody heard gunshots.\u201d And I said: \u201cI\u2019m close. Do you want me to go back?\u201d That\u2019s what my first thought was as a trauma person. He said no. And then I started hearing from staff who were there and started walking people through what to do. I sat in a parking lot for three or four hours, while my child\u2019s at a birthday party, calling people. I FaceTimed with hundreds of staff members who were stuck there, telling them we were going to do what we could to protect them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Elizabeth Soda, medical officer for immigrant and refugee health: Kennedy made his first visit to the campus after the shooting. He could not have been in the building more than 20 minutes, and he did not address us collectively at any point. There was a beautiful makeshift memorial for the officer who was killed, and we saw him drive right past it. He didn\u2019t even stop to pay his respects.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">(According to Nixon, the health department spokesman, \u201cSecretary Kennedy addressed all C.D.C. staffers the morning after the shooting occurred.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-zze1ua\">\u2018You start to see very quickly that \u2014 wow, we are not just losing momentum; we are going backward.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Tom Simon, former senior programs director, violence prevention<\/p>\n<p>August 27<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> A month after being confirmed, Monarez was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/08\/27\/health\/cdc-monarez-kennedy-vaccines.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">fired<\/a> by Kennedy. A Trump spokesman said that she was \u201cnot aligned with the president\u2019s agenda of Making America Healthy Again.\u201d In her place, Trump appointed the deputy health secretary, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/08\/29\/health\/james-oneill-cdc.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jim O\u2019Neill,<\/a> as acting director. A former biotech executive, he had no medical training and no background in public health. In the wake of Monarez\u2019s firing and citing deep concerns over the agency\u2019s direction under Kennedy, Houry, Daskalakis and Jernigan <a href=\"https:\/\/www.science.org\/content\/article\/attempt-oust-cdc-director-sparks-key-resignations-agency-officials\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">all resigned<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Debra Houry, former chief medical officer: Susan had been told very early on that she couldn\u2019t make any staffing or policy decisions without her chief of staff or the H.H.S. counsel approving them. She still tried to lead. She and I did an all-hands for some of the vaccine staff the day after the shooting. It got leaked to the media. After that, H.H.S. wouldn\u2019t let her do any more.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">I told her that I was going to the memorial for Officer Rose that Friday, and she said she was going too. And that\u2019s when H.H.S. demanded she return to Washington. She said, \u201cI\u2019m staying for the service.\u201d When she left for Washington after the funeral, I told my husband, \u201cI\u2019m going to be gone by Labor Day.\u201d I\u2019m an E.R. doc, so I handle stress pretty well. But this was like being in a mass disaster nonstop for eight months.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Epidemiologist: Deb, Dimitri and Dan resigned seemingly very quickly. But it was clear that they had drawn a red line and were prepared to go out together when it was crossed. And this was it. After everything we had been through, it was incredibly inspiring to see our leaders stand up. When we knew they were walking out, we all signed out of work and lined up right in front of campus. There were hundreds of us, and the folks from the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.usphs.gov\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Commissioned Corps<\/a> of the United States Public Health Service [a uniformed public health force] were in front of the building. And as Dan, Deb and Demetre walked down, they all saluted them.<\/p>\n<p>September 4-17<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> A routine hearing called by the Senate Finance Committee to review the H.H.S. budget focused instead on the changes to ACIP and the circumstances surrounding Monarez\u2019s firing. Kennedy said that he dismissed the director because she had admitted that she was not trustworthy. He also defended the mass terminations across the agency. \u201cWe are the sickest country in the world,\u201d he said. \u201cThat\u2019s why we have to fire people at C.D.C. They did not do their job.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\">Two weeks later, the Senate committee that presided over Monarez\u2019s confirmation called her and Houry to testify. Monarez said she was terminated for refusing to promise to approve new ACIP recommendations without first seeing the science behind them. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/shots-health-news\/2025\/09\/17\/nx-s1-5544143\/cdc-director-susan-monarez-testimony-rfk\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cHe just wanted blanket approval,<\/a>\u201d she told the committee. She warned that the secretary was leading public health to \u201ca very dangerous place\u201d and that the nation\u2019s children would be harmed by his policies. Houry described an agency overrun by political appointees. \u201cSecretary Kennedy censored C.D.C. science, politicized its processes and stripped leaders of independence,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\">Senator Tim Kaine, a Virginia Democrat, apologized to Monarez: \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/shots-health-news\/2025\/09\/17\/nx-s1-5544143\/cdc-director-susan-monarez-testimony-rfk\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">I had concern about your backbone, and I was wrong.<\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Susan Monarez testifying before a Senate committee in September, shortly after she was fired as the C.D.C. director. Kenny Holston\/The New York Times<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Health scientist: It really meant everything to see these two women call Kennedy out and say what really happened. It must have taken so much courage on their part, given who they are up against and what this administration is known for. Everyone\u2019s tune changed on Susan in that moment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Epidemiologist: Seeing Houry and Monarez lay everything out was jarring. We realized we had misread Monarez, and she was fighting for us the whole time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Susan A. Wang, former senior medical adviser in the global immunization division: There are many current and former employees trying to preserve real science and public health. People are worried that they\u2019re the last one standing and that they will have to concede or get chopped down, so this gave people some strength.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Elizabeth Soda, medical officer for immigrant and refugee health: I listened as I was driving from Atlanta to D.C. to talk to lawmakers. I was flat-out shocked to see that Monarez stood her ground. She knew there would be huge blowback, and she did anyway. It was a real moment of hope.<\/p>\n<p>September 22<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> A new advisory page for \u201cmedicine and pregnancy\u201d on the C.D.C.\u2019s website suggested that autism and A.D.H.D. might be linked to acetaminophen use during pregnancy. In a White House news conference that day, Trump, flanked by his top health officials, urged pregnant women to resist using the medication. \u201cFight like hell not to take it,\u201d he said. The recommendation ran contrary to medical consensus.<\/p>\n<p>President Trump at his news conference on autism and acetaminophen in September, accompanied by (from left) Martin Makary, the F.D.A. commissioner; Jay Bhattacharya, the director of the National Institutes of Health; Kennedy; and Mehmet Oz, the administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Tierney L. Cross\/The New York Times<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Daniel Jernigan, former director of the National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases: You would never have seen that before: statements based on an association found in a review paper that would lead to regulatory change without following any of the regulatory processes. I\u2019ve never seen an agency that is responsible for the health of 340 million Americans be so willy-nilly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Health scientist: I lean a little MAHA on some things. I don\u2019t take too much medication. I try not to have too many medical interventions. But when I was pregnant and super sick, I did take Tylenol. High fevers can be really dangerous for a developing fetus or a newborn baby. The risk of repeated fevers is actually greater to mother and child than any supposed risk posed by acetaminophen.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Fiona Havers, former medical epidemiologist in the respiratory viruses division: A lot of communications staff have been fired, and scientists are not being given the opportunity to review what\u2019s being said before it goes out. That\u2019s creating a lot of confusion for patients and providers, and it\u2019s very damaging to the credibility that C.D.C. spent a generation building. I think there are always things that we can do better. But what we see out of this administration doesn\u2019t even come close to meeting the standards that we\u2019ve set in the past.<\/p>\n<p>November 20<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> The C.D.C. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/11\/20\/health\/vaccine-autism-cdc-website.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">altered its webpage on vaccines and autism.<\/a> The header of the autism page still read: \u201cVaccines do not cause autism.\u201d But a new statement above it said: \u201cThe claim \u2018vaccines do not cause autism\u2019 is not an evidence-based claim because studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism.\u201d A footnote explained that an agreement with the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions prevented officials from changing the page\u2019s header.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Susan A. Wang, former senior medical adviser in the global immunization division: We had a very stringent scientific process for vetting information that would get published on the C.D.C. website. Everything was checked and double-checked. And for political appointees to take over the means of communication is devastating, and also dangerous. Now, some things are correct and some are not, which means that you can\u2019t trust any of it. People can now point to the C.D.C. website when spreading false information. And we all worry that by co-opting the C.D.C. webpage, R.F.K. will ultimately pollute the algorithms that guide people online now. A.I. might not be able to sort the evidence-based stuff from the trash.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Vaccine specialist: We\u2019ve really worked to get across the message that you can still trust C.D.C. scientists, even if you cannot trust the agency. But that\u2019s a hard message to convey. Nothing I have worked on at a scientific level has been interfered with by our agency. But obviously, the public is not reading what we publish in The Lancet or The New England Journal of Medicine. It\u2019s our public communications that the public turns to \u2014 and that\u2019s what\u2019s been hijacked.<\/p>\n<p>December 5-16<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> On Dec. 5, the advisory committee voted to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/12\/05\/health\/kennedy-vaccine-committee-vote-hepatitisb.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">stop recommending the hepatitis B vaccine<\/a> for all infants at birth. Instead, it said that mothers who test negative for the virus should delay vaccination and consult with a doctor before deciding when or whether to vaccinate their infants. The W.H.O. and most leading medical groups in the United States recommend starting hepatitis B vaccination at birth to prevent mother-to-child transmission. The virus is highly infectious and can cause severe liver damage. Universal at-birth vaccination has reduced the national incidence of pediatric hepatitis B by 99 percent since 1991.<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\">Nearly two weeks later, the C.D.C. approved a $1.6 million grant to conduct <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/01\/22\/health\/hepatitis-b-vaccine-africa-study.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a randomized controlled trial of the hepatitis B vaccine<\/a> in infants in Guinea-Bissau. The study, proposed by a Danish university, called for not administering the vaccine to half of 14,000 infants for the first six weeks of life, without screening their mothers for the virus. It\u2019s considered unethical to withhold lifesaving treatments for the sake of research. The study was later suspended by the government of Guinea-Bissau.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Demetre C. Daskalakis, former director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases: They didn\u2019t go through any of the standard processes. They didn\u2019t look at the data. They just decided, based on vibes, that this vaccine shouldn\u2019t be given to young children.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Susan A. Wang, former senior medical adviser in the global immunization division: To even entertain an unsolicited proposal from some random scientist in Denmark, and then to award the money, without having any experts at C.D.C. review it, and then to completely skirt standard ethics review \u2014 it makes no sense whatsoever.<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-zze1ua\">\u2018They just decided, based on vibes, that this vaccine shouldn\u2019t be given to young children.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Demetre C. Daskalakis, former center director, immunization and respiratory diseases<\/p>\n<p>January 5, 2026<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> Kennedy announced that the C.D.C. had reduced the number of diseases that it recommended children be vaccinated against to 11 from 17, dropping flu, coronavirus and hepatitis A and B, among others, without the customary ACIP hearing. The move was billed as a common-sense corrective that would bring the United States in line with other advanced nations, like Denmark and Japan, which have fewer vaccine requirements, and would help restore Americans\u2019 trust in public health.<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\">Later in the month, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/01\/23\/health\/milhoan-vaccines-optional-polio.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Kirk Milhoan,<\/a> the new ACIP chair, said that the polio vaccine, a standard requirement for public school attendance for decades, should be optional. In severe cases, polio can lead to permanent paralysis and even death. Milhoan, a pediatric cardiologist, argued that free choice supersedes the duty to protect others, like the immunocompromised and infants who are too young to be vaccinated.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Fiona Havers, former medical epidemiologist in the respiratory viruses division: We heard that when they first broached this broader schedule change in December, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/2025\/12\/20\/rfk-kennedy-danish-vaccine-schedule-denmark-00701999\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">their legal and political advisers told them not to do it<\/a>. They canceled a press conference, and for a minute it looked like maybe they would back off. But right after the holidays, they did it anyway. In retrospect, it should have been clear to everyone that after they succeeded in changing flu, Covid, M.M.R.V. and hepatitis B recommendations, they would come for the rest of the schedule.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Vaccine specialist: They just refused to listen to any rationale that didn\u2019t align with their beliefs. Our constant joke now is \u201cWell, what does Denmark say?\u201d Because apparently Denmark is our standard for everything. Even though actual officials from Denmark are telling us that\u2019s ridiculous.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">I understand the concern over Covid not being as high-risk for children as a whole. But flu is very different. We had just gotten out of the \u201924-25 flu season, which had the most pediatric deaths since we started collecting data in the 2000s. So we thought that flu, at least, would be spared. But we were wrong.<\/p>\n<p>February 17<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> Trump named <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/02\/26\/health\/cdc-bhattacharya-vaccinations-measles.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jay Bhattacharya<\/a>, a medical economist and former Stanford professor who also leads the National Institutes of Health, as acting C.D.C. director. Bhattacharya became well known during the pandemic as an outspoken critic of coronavirus vaccine mandates and as an author of the October 2020 Great Barrington Declaration, a manifesto against Covid lockdowns. As acting C.D.C. director, he was quick to visit the agency\u2019s main campus, praise the staff for its work and promise to support vaccines.<\/p>\n<p>Jay Bhattacharya, the director of the National Institutes of Health and now also the acting director of the C.D.C., testifying before a Senate committee in February. Eric Lee for The New York Times<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Elizabeth Soda, medical officer for immigrant and refugee health: Our bar has gotten so low that we are praising him for doing things that should be a bare minimum. He has come to campus and talked with staff. He believes in the measles vaccine. And that\u2019s all great. But that\u2019s also part of what any leader should be doing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Vaccine specialist: There are reasons to be skeptical, but there\u2019s also a case for benefit of the doubt. We\u2019ve heard more from Bhattacharya in the past 10 days than we heard from Jim O\u2019Neill in his entire six months. I was reading a little bit more about the rationale behind Bhattacharya\u2019s Covid positions and the Barrington Declaration, and I didn\u2019t walk away feeling that he was quite as much of an outsider as the media had portrayed. He\u2019s not fully in line with us. But maybe he was misquoted on some things.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Health scientist: Bhattacharya is an improvement. I want to hear what he has to say before I start calling him out. I think we learned with Susan to give people a chance. He told people not to trust the C.D.C. during Covid, so not everyone is going to feel that way. But the way we did things before was hardly perfect. We were way too hierarchical, and it stifled innovation and dissent. So there\u2019s at least hope that when it all collapses, we can build back not to what it was but to what it was always meant to be.<\/p>\n<p>March 16<\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\"> A federal judge temporarily halted Kennedy\u2019s reconstitution of ACIP and the changes he made to the childhood vaccine schedule in January, saying that Kennedy had <a href=\"https:\/\/www.courtlistener.com\/docket\/70722326\/291\/american-academy-of-pediatrics-v-kennedy\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">violated the Administrative Procedure Act,<\/a> which governs how policy changes are evaluated and executed. The judge called Kennedy\u2019s changes to vaccine recommendations \u201carbitrary and capricious\u201d and noted that only six of ACIP\u2019s 15 panelists \u201cappear to have any meaningful experience in vaccines \u2014 the very focus of ACIP.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"svelte-y90k6w\">Nixon, the health department spokesman, said: \u201cWe look forward to this judge\u2019s decision being overturned just like his other attempts to keep the Trump administration from governing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Kennedy before a news conference at the Department of Health and Human Services in February. Nathan Howard\/Reuters<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Demetre C. Daskalakis, former director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases: This is a major victory, but it is also temporary. ACIP and policy by decree are only two of several levers, including regulatory processes and insurance programs, that Kennedy can use to undermine vaccine access and uptake. As long as he is in charge of H.H.S., vaccines will not be safe.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Abby Tighe, former public health adviser in the division of overdose prevention: I don\u2019t think it is well understood that we\u2019re not going to see the outcomes of all of this until Trump is long gone. We\u2019re setting ourselves up for a generation of problems that we do not have to have. It is so hard to convey to people that just because you can access vaccines right now, for yourself and your kids, doesn\u2019t mean that your grandchildren will definitely have them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-body-text svelte-i37gsg g-text_last\">Noel Brewer, a former ACIP voting member who was fired on June 9: It\u2019s unclear what happens next. It will be interesting to see if there\u2019s a response to this lawsuit or if they let it stand. And that may depend on the bigger question of: How deep into the DNA of the Republican Party has this anti-vaccine sentiment gone? The vast majority of Americans still believe in science and want vaccines. But to really move back to what we had before \u2014 where shots were a lifesaving public good \u2014 will take some resolve.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Almost as soon as he recaptured the White House, President-elect Trump announced that he was choosing Robert F.&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":540749,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[34],"tags":[23715,5648,97,242044,9465,196728,3479,177021],"class_list":["post-540748","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-health","tag-centers-for-disease-control-and-prevention","tag-donald-j","tag-health","tag-health-and-human-services-department","tag-kennedy","tag-robert-f-jr","tag-trump","tag-vaccination-and-immunization"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/540748","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=540748"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/540748\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/540749"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=540748"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=540748"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=540748"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}