{"id":56534,"date":"2025-08-04T00:33:07","date_gmt":"2025-08-04T00:33:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/56534\/"},"modified":"2025-08-04T00:33:07","modified_gmt":"2025-08-04T00:33:07","slug":"browns-dud-of-a-qb-competition-among-9-thoughts-through-9-days-of-training-camp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/56534\/","title":{"rendered":"Browns\u2019 dud of a QB competition among 9 thoughts through 9 days of training camp"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Nine thoughts and observations on the <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"38\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/team\/browns\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Cleveland Browns<\/a> after nine training camp practices and the standard beginning of camp festivities and storylines. Some days, frankly, have been more festive than others \u2026<\/p>\n<p>1. The quarterback competition is the obvious headliner. It\u2019s been a bit of a dud, but in true Browns fashion, it\u2019s also included some surprises. <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"stWwj88awWgSegzc\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/kenny-pickett-stWwj88awWgSegzc\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Kenny Pickett<\/a> closed the first week of practices with two touchdown passes, but in between, he strained a hamstring. <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"pKjXR0q0a8ezrSg8\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/shedeur-sanders-pKjXR0q0a8ezrSg8\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Shedeur Sanders<\/a> was dressed for practice Saturday but reported arm soreness and took no competitive reps.<\/p>\n<p>Pickett said he\u2019s working \u201c24-7\u201d to get back to full speed but acknowledged he\u2019s losing ground. <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"0lQDEpnpDyZhA4BO\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/joe-flacco-0lQDEpnpDyZhA4BO\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Joe Flacco<\/a>\u2019s two best throwing days have been the two most recent days, Friday and Saturday. Neither of the rookies ever had much of a realistic chance to win the starting job this August, and over the last week, Flacco has gone from presumed favorite to strong favorite.<\/p>\n<p>What always mattered most was finding the No. 1 \u2014 even if that status was going to be in flux at some point \u2014 and letting the folks in charge evaluate and decide on the rest of the depth chart and the room. There\u2019s a lot of camp left, and there\u2019s obviously a lot still to be settled with Pickett, <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"zznVuRV8NoDI8xlv\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/dillon-gabriel-zznVuRV8NoDI8xlv\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Dillon Gabriel<\/a> and Sanders.<\/p>\n<p>2. There\u2019s much more going on than just the quarterback battle. But we watch the quarterbacks first, and even in this idealistic version of an angry, hungry Browns team winning with a monster defense and a ball-control offense, solid and efficient quarterback play will be necessary to the team\u2019s chances of putting some wins together.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s probably no surprise that Flacco has looked better when he\u2019s not taking four reps at a time or only jumping in competitive drills every other day. The early stages of a four-man competition were never going to be the best stage for Flacco, and the overall uncertainty of everything was underscored by team owner <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/6523164\/2025\/07\/29\/cleveland-browns-owner-jimmy-haslam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Jimmy Haslam<\/a> using his annual early-camp news conference to publicly say that the team needs to see the rookie quarterbacks play before it makes any decisions about the future and specifically about April 2026, when the Browns have two first-round picks.<\/p>\n<p>What are realistic expectations for this 2025 Browns team? Well, we\u2019re already talking about next year in the first week of August.<\/p>\n<p>3. From a personnel standpoint, camp is not off to the greatest of starts. Cornerback Martin Emerson Jr. suffered a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/6523499\/2025\/07\/29\/browns-martin-emerson-achilles-injury\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">season-ending ruptured Achilles tendon<\/a> last week, and veteran linebacker <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"LMtU92uMuLj10U0A\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/jordan-hicks-LMtU92uMuLj10U0A\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jordan Hicks<\/a> started camp away from the team before officially deciding on retirement.<\/p>\n<p>Emerson appeared to be on his way to stardom in his first two seasons before having a tough 2024. Now, he\u2019ll hit free agency next year off a major injury. Hicks was a team-captain, coach-on-the-field type who was going to play a role. Now, the Browns are without their two best linebackers from last year as <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"dTrIWP1gO0BvSyr7\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/jeremiah-owusu-koramoah-dTrIWP1gO0BvSyr7\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah<\/a> will miss the season with a neck injury.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019re still early enough in camp that we risk ankle injuries jumping to real conclusions, but it\u2019s fair to say the start of things has backed up previous thoughts that the Browns are neither deep nor scary in their running back and wide receiver rooms. Second-round rookie <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"76S4og90WD8SUvnu\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/quinshon-judkins-76S4og90WD8SUvnu\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Quinshon Judkins<\/a> remains unsigned and away from the team following his <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/6490608\/2025\/07\/12\/browns-quinshon-judkins-arrested-domestic-violence-charge\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">July 12 arrest<\/a> on charges of domestic violence and battery.<\/p>\n<p>4. It\u2019s not all bleak. I promise. The team\u2019s first two draft picks, defensive tackle <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"E7uBKech1mK6qkvR\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/mason-graham-E7uBKech1mK6qkvR\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Mason Graham<\/a> and linebacker <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"QMtS7zn37E1O1AKE\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/carson-schwesinger-QMtS7zn37E1O1AKE\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Carson Schwesinger<\/a>, are immediate starters who appear to be keepers. As you\u2019d probably hope and expect, the two best players in camp have been defensive end <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"5tNpwZ84u0CxU0dz\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/myles-garrett-5tNpwZ84u0CxU0dz\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Myles Garrett<\/a> and cornerback <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"aZpBwSNmq8IagFQM\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/denzel-ward-aZpBwSNmq8IagFQM\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Denzel Ward<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>When Browns coach Kevin Stefanski announced that Garrett would be given Saturday off, I immediately wondered if it was as much a break for left tackle <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"BFwagyjSCjsjIm9l\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/dawand-jones-BFwagyjSCjsjIm9l\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Dawand Jones<\/a> as it was for Garrett. Jones is still learning the position on the fly, and Garrett is often flying past him.<\/p>\n<p>The camper of the day Saturday was undrafted rookie wide receiver <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"tszXMO4KeztRZzNq\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/gage-larvadain-tszXMO4KeztRZzNq\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Gage Larvadain<\/a>, who\u2019s made a notable play on most days but made multiple impressive catches Saturday. If Larvadain keeps it up, he\u2019ll make the team. If he keeps moving up, he\u2019ll draw matchups with Ward \u2014 and no wide receiver has had much, if any, success versus Ward to this point in camp.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">I caught a touchdown from Mr.Joe Flacco\u2026\ud83d\ude05\ud83d\ude05 Life is complete <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/wExItahGIp\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/t.co\/wExItahGIp<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Gage Larvadain\ud83e\udd34\ud83c\udffd (@g1baller) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/g1baller\/status\/1951692780566093968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">August 2, 2025<\/a><\/p>\n<p>5. As noted above, the first two rookies in this class are trending upward and Judkins, the third, is missing valuable time and is in limbo.<\/p>\n<p>Tight end Harold Fannin Jr. has already played his way into significant snaps with the No. 1 offense, and though Fannin is barely 21 and still new to the position, he\u2019s going to play a role as a rookie. Fourth-round rookie running back <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"smMvjJ2LVAW8mtlR\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/dylan-sampson-smMvjJ2LVAW8mtlR\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Dylan Sampson<\/a> has shown some ability to make tacklers miss while essentially playing the 1-B role alongside <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"NLM5eIn9uk61Nu6Y\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/jerome-ford-NLM5eIn9uk61Nu6Y\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jerome Ford<\/a> in Judkins\u2019 absence.<\/p>\n<p>With the two rookie quarterbacks, there\u2019s a clear order: Gabriel, the third-round pick, goes ahead of Sanders and gets more total reps, too. But to say Gabriel has had an up-and-down camp would be to at least slightly ignore that he\u2019s been wildly down (and wildly inaccurate) in recent days. And though camp stats and camp completions don\u2019t tell anything close to the whole story, Gabriel has done nothing to make anyone observing believe he\u2019s ready to be trusted as a No. 2 quarterback.<\/p>\n<p>Sanders has shown impressive accuracy, and though he hasn\u2019t been razor-sharp every day, he\u2019s had the best throw of the day on multiple practice days. The Browns have no plans to rush Sanders into anything and want him to continue developing in their offense. If Sanders can handle pressure and off-schedule plays over the next two weeks in preseason and joint practice settings, he could position himself to play late in the season.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/USATSI_26728009-scaled.jpg\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-6532537 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/USATSI_26728009-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1706\"  \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>      Shedeur Sanders hasn\u2019t been perfect but there have been several days of camp in which he\u2019s made the best throw of the day. (Ken Blaze \/ Imagn Images)<\/p>\n<p>6. Nothing with Sanders, Gabriel or any other rookie has to be a race. Really. Not at this stage, anyway. The biggest summer evaluation days for all 90 players lie directly ahead, and the internal honesty about this team\u2019s ceiling and long-term uncertainty make it so the folks in charge have to see as many young players in as many pressure-packed situations as possible. There\u2019s a regular season to get prepared for, too \u2014 and if the Browns can\u2019t beat the <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"37\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/team\/bengals\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Cincinnati Bengals<\/a> in the opener, it\u2019s fair to wonder when they\u2019ll crack the win column.<\/p>\n<p>But we\u2019re still early enough in the process that Stefanski and his coaches can mix in young players in preseason settings and use the joint practices to push the presumed starters. It\u2019s more than fair to say the first nine days of practice have been ugly for the offense while also acknowledging that expectations for those days should not have been super high. The best camp days are still coming, and players who might really position themselves to impress still have plenty of chances to do so.<\/p>\n<p>7. Friday, Flacco had <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"jy7PvJsPl57HQPF0\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/jerry-jeudy-jy7PvJsPl57HQPF0\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jerry Jeudy<\/a> open deep down the sideline. Cornerback Greg Newsome II closed on the ball beautifully, though, and knocked it away.<\/p>\n<p>Newsome landed awkwardly on his shoulder and sat out the rest of practice. He didn\u2019t practice Saturday, and Stefanski called Newsome \u201cday to day.\u201d Newsome is having a strong camp, and a swift return to top form becomes more important in the wake of Emerson\u2019s injury. Like Emerson, Newsome is only under contract for this season. The Browns have <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"QwHVoqoBhcK6pfRj\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/cameron-mitchell-QwHVoqoBhcK6pfRj\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Cameron Mitchell<\/a> and <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"SqvmCBgmUnnUU7rd\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/myles-harden-SqvmCBgmUnnUU7rd\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Myles Harden<\/a> competing for snaps at slot cornerback now, and Newsome probably has to play outside almost all of the time with Emerson out.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not yet a crisis at cornerback, and Newsome being on the sideline Saturday indicates he likely doesn\u2019t have a major injury. Still, the overall lack of proven depth across the roster remains a concern.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Harden(ed) toughness<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Myles1Harden?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@Myles1Harden<\/a> deflection! <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/2QbEk6zFIj\" rel=\"nofollow\">pic.twitter.com\/2QbEk6zFIj<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Cleveland Browns (@Browns) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Browns\/status\/1951652870043959610?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">August 2, 2025<\/a><\/p>\n<p>8. I believe the Monday, July 27, practice was a guideline for how Stefanski will handle the preseason opener. On that day, the usual starters went through early drills before the top players at most positions essentially got the rest of the day off. I think the Browns will sit their top, say, 18 to 25 players and probably let the rookie quarterbacks play in the actual preseason game.<\/p>\n<p>The caveat here is that Stefanski has to be open to anything \u2014 and might have to be flexible depending on the health and availability of Pickett and Sanders. The Browns will participate in one joint practice against the <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"35\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/team\/panthers\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Carolina Panthers<\/a> and two against the <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"54\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/team\/eagles\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Philadelphia Eagles<\/a> the following week. I think the practices in Philadelphia will be mostly about the starters and, as has been the case the last two years, the second preseason game will be mostly for the youngsters.<\/p>\n<p>9. If the offensive line is healthy and can play to its experience level (and pay grade), the Browns will have a chance to have a functional offense. But with four offensive line starters only signed through 2025 and not a lot of proven depth in any spot, there has to be uncertainty in the long term and over the next couple of weeks. No quarterback can function in a preseason setting if his offensive tackles are turnstiles.<\/p>\n<p>The players to watch most closely are 2024 third-round pick <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"16ukyJiY3W25yc4j\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/zak-zinter-16ukyJiY3W25yc4j\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Zak Zinter<\/a> and veteran tackle <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"pMcpZiU85fbDaLEY\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/cornelius-lucas-pMcpZiU85fbDaLEY\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Cornelius Lucas<\/a>, a March addition who\u2019s the top backup tackle. The Browns also have some tackle experience in Jackson Barton and <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"dr4e9pTR6z6CxB8t\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/teven-jenkins-dr4e9pTR6z6CxB8t\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Teven Jenkins<\/a>, who\u2019s playing guard with the No. 2 offense but has tackle experience. Friday, the Browns claimed tackle <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"G6L5g151Wyj1OSKc\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/player\/sebastian-gutierrez-G6L5g151Wyj1OSKc\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Sebastian Gutierrez<\/a> off waivers from the <a class=\"ath_autolink\" data-id=\"58\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/nfl\/team\/niners\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">San Francisco 49ers<\/a>; Gutierrez spent some time last season on the Browns\u2019 practice squad.<\/p>\n<p>About 20 minutes into Saturday\u2019s practice, Gutierrez walked out to the practice field. A member of the team\u2019s personnel department escorted Gutierrez towards the south end of the practice fields so he could join the offensive linemen. Gutierrez had flown overnight, taken a physical, put on his new uniform and immediately joined a practice that had already started. It was a little awkward, obviously, but the folks in charge think there\u2019s a chance that Gutierrez can provide some value over the coming weeks if necessary.<\/p>\n<p>After Sunday\u2019s off day, the Browns begin their third week of camp. The injuries, batted passes and players coming directly from both the sideline and the airport into action over the first two weeks serve as a reminder that we don\u2019t have more than a guess at what\u2019s coming next.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">(Top photo of Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett: Jeff Lange \/ USA Today Network via Imagn Images)<\/p>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Nine thoughts and observations on the Cleveland Browns after nine training camp practices and the standard beginning of&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":56535,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[63],"tags":[1799,349,99],"class_list":["post-56534","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-nfl","tag-cleveland-browns","tag-nfl","tag-sports"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/56534","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=56534"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/56534\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/56535"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=56534"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=56534"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=56534"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}