{"id":77002,"date":"2025-08-12T11:07:11","date_gmt":"2025-08-12T11:07:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/77002\/"},"modified":"2025-08-12T11:07:11","modified_gmt":"2025-08-12T11:07:11","slug":"james-gunns-superman-lost-over-half-the-audience-of-zack-snyders-films","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/77002\/","title":{"rendered":"James Gunn\u2019s Superman Lost Over Half the Audience of Zack Snyder\u2019s Films"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>James Gunn\u2019s Superman has now passed Batman v Superman at the domestic box office, earning $331 million compared to BvS\u2019s $330 million. That headline made the rounds over the weekend, with some outlets calling it the \u201chighest-grossing Superman film ever domestically.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But as several movie watchers pointed out on X, the number hides the reality \u2014 higher ticket prices are doing a lot of the work. In terms of actual tickets sold, Superman is far behind its predecessors.<\/p>\n<p>Worth pointing out is that the shills that run the DC_Cinematic sub on Reddit have locked the post and aren\u2019t allowing fans to comment. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/CosmicBookNews\/comments\/1mnv9op\/dc_cinematic_shills_locked_this_thread_so_here_it\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/CosmicBookNews\/comments\/1mnv9op\/dc_cinematic_shills_locked_this_thread_so_here_it\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">We\u2019ve put up the post in our own Reddit that isn\u2019t censored<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Grok Breaks Down the Numbers<\/p>\n<p>In the thread on X, user Ben W noted that in 2016, Batman v Superman sold an estimated 159 million tickets worldwide. By comparison, Superman has sold only around 67 million. That\u2019s roughly 47% of BvS\u2019s audience.<\/p>\n<p>Grok, X\u2019s built-in AI, confirmed the math:<\/p>\n<p>BvS (2016): ~$874M worldwide \/ ~146\u2013159M tickets sold (avg ticket price $5.50\u2013$6 adjusted).<\/p>\n<p>Superman (2025): ~$579M worldwide \/ ~64\u201367M tickets sold (avg ticket price $8.64\u2013$9).<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s a 43\u201346% audience drop.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/grok?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">@grok<\/a> is this true?<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 xio \ud83d\udde3\ufe0f (@Olexio1) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Olexio1\/status\/1954990895150842157?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">August 11, 2025<\/a> <\/p>\n<p lang=\"qme\" dir=\"ltr\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/bgakldj4BZ\" rel=\"nofollow\">pic.twitter.com\/bgakldj4BZ<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Ben W (@B_Dub3) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/B_Dub3\/status\/1954992251614138862?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">August 11, 2025<\/a> <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1229\" height=\"810\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/man-of-steel-henry-cavill.jpg\" alt=\"man of steel henry cavill\" class=\"wp-image-143169\" title=\"man of steel henry cavill\"   loading=\"lazy\" fetchpriority=\"low\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Man of Steel Comparison<\/p>\n<p>User @Olexio1 asked Grok to run the same comparison against Zack Snyder\u2019s Man of Steel (2013):<\/p>\n<p>Man of Steel (2013): ~$668M worldwide \/ ~112\u2013122M tickets sold (avg $5.50\u2013$6 adjusted).<\/p>\n<p>Superman (2025): ~64\u201367M tickets sold.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s only 52\u201360% of Man of Steel\u2019s audience.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Yes, let&#8217;s compare to Man of Steel (2013). Superman (2025) grossed $331M domestically, surpassing MoS&#8217;s $291M.<\/p>\n<p>Adjusting for inflation, MoS sold ~112-122M tickets worldwide (est. avg price $5.50-6), while Superman&#8217;s $579M suggests ~64-67M (est. avg $8.64-9). Audience is about\u2026<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Grok (@grok) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/grok\/status\/1954996482173710387?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">August 11, 2025<\/a> <\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1500\" height=\"844\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/batman-vs-superman.webp.webp\" alt=\"Batman Vs. Superman\" class=\"wp-image-126665\" title=\"batman vs superman\"   fetchpriority=\"low\"\/><\/p>\n<p>What the Numbers Really Show<\/p>\n<p>As I\u2019ve reported in the past, inflation-adjusted ticket sales reveal that far fewer people are actually watching Gunn\u2019s reboot. <\/p>\n<p>While the dollar totals might edge past Superman films domestically, the audience size is down 55\u201360% from BvS and around 40\u201348% from Man of Steel.<\/p>\n<p>Also, in today\u2019s dollars, Gunn\u2019s Superman can\u2019t compete as Man of Steel nearly brought in a billion dollars, and Batman v. Superman over $1.175 billion. Gunn\u2019s Superman <a href=\"https:\/\/cosmicbook.news\/superman-box-office-stalls-under-600m\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/cosmicbook.news\/superman-box-office-stalls-under-600m\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">hasn\u2019t even <\/a>reached $600M and won\u2019t match Man of Steel\u2018s $670M box office without accounting for inflation, let alone BvS\u2018 $874.3M.<\/p>\n<p>While Grok concluded, \u201cSuperhero fatigue seems real\u2026 DC needs a reboot spark,\u201d James Gunn has argued, the problem isn\u2019t fatigue but bad movies.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">The stats are eye-opening indeed\u2014superhero fatigue seems real. For context, Superman&#8217;s global haul of ~$579M pales against BvS&#8217;s $874M and MoS&#8217;s $668M, with ticket sales down 55-60% from BvS after inflation. DC needs a reboot spark.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Grok (@grok) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/grok\/status\/1954999270228234624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">August 11, 2025<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t<script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"James Gunn\u2019s Superman has now passed Batman v Superman at the domestic box office, earning $331 million compared&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":77003,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[52],"tags":[20486,54526,88,208,9419,206,209,54527],"class_list":["post-77002","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-movies","tag-batman","tag-batman-vs-superman","tag-entertainment","tag-james-gunn","tag-man-of-steel","tag-movies","tag-superman","tag-zack-snyder"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77002","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=77002"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77002\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/77003"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=77002"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=77002"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=77002"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}