{"id":803855,"date":"2026-08-05T20:12:21","date_gmt":"2026-08-05T20:12:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/803855\/"},"modified":"2026-08-05T20:12:21","modified_gmt":"2026-08-05T20:12:21","slug":"rhea-seehorn-pluribus-interview-season-2-questions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/803855\/","title":{"rendered":"Rhea Seehorn \u2018Pluribus\u2019 Interview &#038; Season 2 Questions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/2026\/06\/vince-gilligan-rhea-seehorn-pluribus-interview-1236950281\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Vince Gilligan dreamed up the Apple TV show<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/tag\/pluribus\/\" id=\"auto-tag_pluribus\" data-tag=\"pluribus\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Pluribus<\/a>, he envisaged just one actor for its lead: <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/tag\/rhea-seehorn\/\" id=\"auto-tag_rhea-seehorn\" data-tag=\"rhea-seehorn\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Rhea Seehorn<\/a>. After working together on his Breaking Bad follow-up show <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/tag\/better-call-saul\/\" id=\"auto-tag_better-call-saul\" data-tag=\"better-call-saul\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Better Call Saul<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/2026\/04\/rhea-seehorn-pluribus-vince-gilligan-interview-1236871630\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">so taken was Gilligan with Seehorn\u2019s abilities<\/a> that he dug in his heels when shopping his latest invention \u2014 a show about a mind-melding pandemic and Carol Sturka, the romantasy novelist who finds herself bizarrely immune and excluded. It had to be Seehorn, no matter what. And boy, did Gilligan\u2019s certainty pay off. The show is currently sitting on 18 Emmy nominations, with Seehorn herself already the winner of Critics\u2019 Choice and Golden Globe Awards and an Actor Award nominee.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On the day we meet at a West Hollywood hotel where Seehorn is later set to do a Q&amp;A event, a line has formed hours in advance, with fans already jostling for a glimpse of the Pluribus star. When I tell Seehorn this, she\u2019s genuinely surprised and delighted, but immediately points out that \u201cit takes a giant village\u201d and credits Gilligan, her co-stars and the inimitable crew. This is a classic Seehorn response to personal accolades it seems, given that when <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/2026\/07\/pluribus-season-2-rhea-seehorn-karolina-wydra-running-1236976070\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">we spoke on the phone the morning of the Emmy nominations <\/a>announcement, her tearful reaction was all about her coworkers and fellow nominees, including <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/2026\/01\/karolina-wydra-profile-pluribus-apple-tv-1236696359\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Karolina Wydra, who plays Carol\u2019s confidant<\/a> Zosia, Miriam Shor, in the role of Carol\u2019s wife Helen, <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/2026\/07\/jeff-hiller-emmy-nom-7-minute-pluribus-role-chatgpt-1237012854\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jeff Hiller as Larry<\/a>, and Carlos-Manuel Vesga as Manousos, one of a dozen people in the world who, like Carol, remains unaffected.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"576\" width=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Rhea2.png\" alt=\"Pluribus\" class=\"wp-image-1237016348\"  \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pluribus blends grief, absurdity and deep human truths, as Carol does battle with not only the hive-minded \u2018others\u2019 who suddenly share all the world\u2019s knowledge and memories, but also with her own isolation. As her rage and loneliness is met with endlessly upbeat and helpful suggestions from the group-think population, the metaphors become legion. Given that, of course, Reddit is positively alive with Pluribus discussions: Surely Gilligan must be referencing AI and its bland, ever-cheerful regurgitation of all it\u2019s been fed? This had to have been inspired by the pandemic? But in truth, neither of these things sparked the idea in Gilligan\u2019s mind. Why? Because they hadn\u2019t happened yet when he wrote it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, with the Season 2 writers\u2019 room underway, what will Gilligan\u2019s weirdly-accurate crystal ball come up with next? <\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At the end of Season 1, Carol learns that the \u2018others\u2019 have got hold of her DNA via the eggs she froze during more hopeful times. And that is all they need to create a new viral strain that will \u2018convert\u2019 her to the hive mind \u2014 something they believe will constitute a happy ending. Of course, Carol does not take this lying down, and the last time we saw her in the Season 1 finale, she had just ordered up an atom bomb delivery. But can she really end it all like this?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the following interview, Seehorn takes us deep into the world of the show, discussing life on the Albuquerque set (the same spot that birthed Better call Saul), whether Carol really will nuke the whole world and why she can\u2019t just demand the immediate return of her eggs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For the answers to all this and more, read on and click on the video interview to watch the conversation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">WATCH: RHEA SEEHORN DISCUSSES ALL THINGS \u2018PLURIBUS\u2019:<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00a0DEADLINE: If you had to bottom-line it, what\u2019s the secret sauce for the success of Pluribus?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">RHEA SEEHORN: I mean, I\u2019d be lying if I didn\u2019t say <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/tag\/vince-gilligan\/\" id=\"auto-tag_vince-gilligan\" data-tag=\"vince-gilligan\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Vince Gilligan<\/a>. That\u2019s the secret sauce of the success of it. But also in particular, I would say first, the macro on that is everybody involved. It\u2019s an incredible crew, department heads, my cast, all the writers, all of the directors and the support of Sony and Apple. It takes a very giant village to do a show like that, enable it, empower it, and get it on the air in the way that Vince envisioned it. So it\u2019s all of that. But I do think some of the secret sauce, as far as it being received so well and engendering such great conversations, is that Vince is writing from a very pure place of wanting to explore humanity and defining happiness and success instead of trying to preach anything in particular.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So it\u2019s really engendered a lot of interpretive comments from people thinking it\u2019s about this or it\u2019s about that, and I think causing some very nuanced conversations instead of the regular binary, \u201ceverything is black and white\u201d for once.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"576\" width=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Rhea4.png\" alt=\"Pluribus\" class=\"wp-image-1237016349\"  \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: Vince must have a crystal ball, because you\u2019ve said he came up with this show before AI, like ChatGPT, was even a thing really, and even before Covid. So people keep thinking, \u201cOh, he\u2019s talking about AI. This is about the pandemic.\u201d And I don\u2019t know how he did it, but he somehow tuned into some future information. But there is a really weird relevance in terms of AI in some of this. There\u2019s a conversation where Carol talks to Jeff Hiller\u2019s character, Larry, and she says, \u201cDo you like my books?\u201d And he goes, \u201cOh we love your books.\u201d She says, \u201cWhat about the plot turns?\u201d \u201cOh yes, we love the plot turns.\u201d And it\u2019s exactly like an AI conversation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: And that they know everything. They have all this conglomeration of all information and all wisdom in one place.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: In a very cheerful, upbeat reflection of whatever you want them to be. What were your thoughts when that landed for you, how incredibly relevant that was, whether by accident or not, and how did you and Vince talk about it?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: I knew that Vince doesn\u2019t write in themes. He\u2019s not trying to speak to a specific theme. I also knew that he\u2019s been mulling over some of these questions about humanity, society, all of the plethora of questions that the show brings up for 10- plus years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, believe it or not, I was surprised when we started doing the press junkets and people were bringing up, \u201cOh, this is a commentary on AI, right?\u201d And I get it now and I know I look like an idiot, but I get so focused on playing the character in the story that she\u2019s in, that I try very hard not to think about how I want it to be interpreted or what is this theme that this is speaking to. I didn\u2019t think about the pandemic. Of course, that got brought up. Of course, there\u2019s a comparison to be made there with isolation. And I\u2019m a very extrovert-introvert, 50-50 person, and so I very much need my alone time, but the pandemic tested that, so be careful what you wish for, right? And I think Carol\u2019s going through that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I see all of the commentary. I mean, I had one journalist say she thought the entire show was a metaphor for grief and depression. And this idea that it feels like when you\u2019re in that space that you\u2019re down a well and everybody that keeps saying \u201ccheer up\u201d might as well be speaking a foreign language to you. And I was like, \u201cThat\u2019s incredible.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"683\" width=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Pluribus_Photo_010404.jpg\" alt=\"Pluribus\" class=\"wp-image-1237016351\"  \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: I wish I\u2019d thought of that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: It\u2019s very smart and very interesting. And Vince is feeling very \u201cyes, and\u201d about everybody\u2019s interpretations, as do I. But while being in it, we didn\u2019t discuss, \u201cHow will this be digested?\u201d I think we knew our RAM space was full with making it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: Yes. You have to be in the moment with your character and not speculate?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: Yes. Carol doesn\u2019t have any time to speculate on what this might mean to other people. She\u2019s not so into that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: She\u2019s got her whiteboard and she\u2019s figuring out how to save the universe.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: She\u2019s only concerned with what it means to her.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: Yes, but she\u2019s not selfish\u2026<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: She tried to save the world, Antonia. Come on. That\u2019s not selfish [laughs].<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: I love the pilot episode with Miriam Shor and that dynamic between Carol and Helen and I\u2019m praying to the Season 2 gods that we get some flashbacks of those two together.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: Miriam Shor is a national treasure. I think we all know that. Yes, I too am praying. I have no say and I don\u2019t even go to the writers\u2019 room to whisper anything because that is a smarter group than I. But yes, I hope we see Miriam again. I see her as often as I can in my real life because she\u2019s just an amazing person. And we had just met when we started to play that, and that relationship was very important to us as allies of the LGBTQ community, as well as gals\u2019 gals that really just support each other and wanted to see the other one soar.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"429\" width=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Pluribus_Photo_010208.jpg\" alt=\"Pluribus\" class=\"wp-image-1237016353\"  \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/2026\/05\/karolina-wydra-pluribus-interview-vince-gilligan-apple-tv-1236929170\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Karolina Wydra is also like that<\/a>. These are two sisters for life as far as I\u2019m concerned. And that\u2019s the magic, I think that you see in those scenes. The chemistry, the oddball chemistry of Zosia and Carol, and the marriage and deep partnership of Helen and Carol is very much a product of the respect and the love that we have for each other and each other\u2019s work when we get to stage.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: It\u2019s funny, on Emmy nomination day, I talked to Karolina and she described you as sisterly as well. Can you talk about making that connection with her?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: With Karolina, I mean she, like Miriam, is an actor that\u2019s there to play. She does tons of homework. She\u2019s such an incredibly gifted, talented actor and very, very fiercely intelligent with her preparation, but she gets to set and is ready to play, as am I. And by that I mean, it\u2019s not a pre-planned performance. It can\u2019t be shaped until you see what the other person\u2019s doing. And the more you respect the contribution the other person just made and allow yourself to react to that in character, to me that is what looks like chemistry to people because it\u2019s that invisible tether between two actors that are allowing the other person to help define where the scene is going, and it makes you hang on their words. It makes you hang on their actions because she is in real-time shaping how my performance is going to be in that scene. I want her to excel and she wants me to excel. And we rehearse together, we hang out together and support each other. I couldn\u2019t be more thrilled that both she and Miriam are nominated for their phenomenal work.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: It sounds like such a tight-knit group. And you shoot in New Mexico where you shot Better Call Saul. I believe you\u2019re even living in the same house?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: On Better Call Saul, I lived in the same house as Patrick Fabian and Bob Odenkirk for the majority of shooting. Karolina\u2019s got little kids, so I couldn\u2019t make her live with me because I had to sleep in the daytime. So, it wasn\u2019t going to go that well with little kids. But I love her enough to live with her.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"428\" width=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Pluribus_Photo_010406.jpg\" alt=\"Pluribus\" class=\"wp-image-1237016354\"  \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: And it\u2019s the same crew too, for the most part?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: Very much the same crew. I think there\u2019s very few differences. And a lot of those people were on Breaking Bad as well.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: That\u2019s such a rare experience to have such a long-term connection with a crew. You always speak so warmly of your crew on this show, and how important they are, and how many real, poignant moments you\u2019ve had with them on set.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: It\u2019s hard to not talk about your own crew and not get teary. I know I\u2019m going to see some of them today, but they are amazing. And yes, it\u2019s a family. What does it mean to have this crew and these department heads and these writers and directors that I\u2019ve had the incredible fortune to work with over and over again? There\u2019s two parts to that, and one part is to get to have a job that has to work at all in this business is the gift, bottom line. But then to get to do work like this, and the kind of writing and the direction and everything that I\u2019ve gotten to do with Vince and his crew and his writers has been incredible.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s a lot of people that love Zosia and Carol together, which I love as well and I\u2019m so thrilled about that. But when they say, \u201cI hope that they get back together and stay together\u201d\u2026 I\u2019m like, \u2018Did you see the finale? I feel like there was a big line crossed with the stealing of the eggs thing. That\u2019s just me. I feel like it\u2019s a big flag.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But when you add to that, to get to work with the same people over and over again, to have a sort of shorthand that I have with Vince, 10-plus, 11-plus years working together at this point and a crew that I know so well that supports me. And I know people out there, whether you\u2019re an actor, or in other areas, like you as a journalist, to work in an environment where you don\u2019t feel that you have to try to prove why you\u2019re there every day, that there\u2019s a baseline of everyone believing that you are of value, which seems like a pretty low bar but it\u2019s not, it inspires you to take risks, inspires you to be more creative, and that\u2019s what they do.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"433\" width=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Pluribus_Photo_010706.jpg\" alt=\"Pluribus\" class=\"wp-image-1237016355\"  \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In addition to that, this crew happens to be some of the best in the world at what they do in every single department, whether it\u2019s props or sound or production design, costume design, makeup, hair, all of it. And so, if I have a second between what I\u2019m doing, to wander over and get to ask Matt Credle, my A camera op, or Eli [Schneider], my dolly grip, or the lighting technicians, to get to learn from these guys, it\u2019s a masterclass every day.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And no matter how great I\u2019m trying to make my performance, if they\u2019re not adding their contribution, it means nothing. They truly celebrate that the best story we can tell is going to be a collaborative storytelling situation, and you feel it and it makes you want to rise to the occasion.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: It sounds like you\u2019re really ready to direct on this show.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: I directed one episode of Better Call Saul, which was fun.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: What about Pluribus?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: I would like to direct again. Directing with that kind of support is definitely an amazing thing. There\u2019s no way I could have in Season 1. I don\u2019t know when I will throw my hat in the ring. I always prioritize the performance, because that\u2019s what I was hired to do. I don\u2019t think I would\u2019ve been able to get enough sleep or brush my teeth if I had tried to direct Season 1.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"683\" width=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Pluribus_Photo_010901.jpg\" alt=\"Pluribus\" class=\"wp-image-1237016357\"  \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don\u2019t know. I loved directing when I did it, and I also directed on Cooper\u2019s Bar, a series that I executive produced and I directed some shorts. And I really do love it. And I do love talking to the crew and I love being part of post-production and prep, and every nerdy part that you can find is my jam. But right now, I have to say it takes every cell in my body to navigate Carol in this bizarre world that Vince Gilligan put her in, and I\u2019m having a blast doing that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: Speaking of Vince\u2019s approach, you\u2019ve said he likes to have lots of angles. And so not only do you need to perfectly replicate the emotional tonal situation multiple times, but you also are doing this for exterior shots, then later doing the same for the interior shot for the same scene. I cannot imagine how you keep all of that straight in your head?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: I\u2019m very protective of Vince when people hear how long we shoot for. He is never indulgent. There is always a reason for the many takes and the many angles. There\u2019s a visual vocabulary that he likes to use that requires a lot of different angles. And so you have to repeat the scene for every time that camera setup has changed. And we\u2019ll do multiple takes also, to find tone because Vince really likes to, as do I, play with a very slippery tone that can shift from comedic to dramatic in the same scene. And we\u2019ve all watched [other] things where you thought, \u201cI don\u2019t think all those people are in the same show, or I don\u2019t think the show knows what it wants to be.\u201d So, he\u2019s fantastic and specific about us playing with, how comedic can this moment be while still being able to be in the same scene as how dark it\u2019s going to get over here, and when does that break? When is that not working anymore? And he lets us explore performance. And scenes can be completely different because of where you put the pauses, or the body language of someone, and he\u2019s looking for the best stories.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"433\" width=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Pluribus_Photo_010804.jpg\" alt=\"Pluribus\" class=\"wp-image-1237016356\"  \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But you are right that for one thing, the backlot, that is the cul-de-sac, is the exteriors. And then the interior, some of the interior of that house, Carol\u2019s house is built on the backlot, but not all the way through. So, there is also the first floor and the second floor as a set built on the sound stages. And so sometimes I am literally doing the exterior of a scene until I come through a door, and then in a couple of days doing after I came in the door.<\/p>\n<p>She was just going to die alone on the couch watching Golden Girls, which if you have to die alone on the couch, watching Golden Girls is the way to go.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And how do I keep it straight is I am a prep freak. That\u2019s all I can say. I love script analysis. I love homework. I love all of it. And I just make tedious notes about the possibilities of behavior and reactions. And in those scenes where I\u2019m by myself, there still is a scene partner, and sometimes my scene partner is whoever she just last saw. She\u2019s still thinking about Zosia, or it\u2019s who she\u2019s avoiding. Then other times my scene partner is knowing somewhere in my brain that I am taking the audience down the rabbit hole. And so, I\u2019m trying to bring them into the story. But even when there\u2019s no dialogue, I know Vince wants as many story beats, if not more, than if it was full verbal dialogue the whole time. So I\u2019m going through and deciding, what would she be thinking here? What would she be thinking there? Why would she start to do this activity? Why would she cross over there? Why is she not talking? I personally love that he didn\u2019t just weirdly make my character do monologues when she\u2019s by herself in her house. And he completely assumes the intelligence of the audience, that you will go on that ride with me without having to be told what to think or how to feel.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: 100%. That\u2019s exactly how it feels to watch the show. I think to me, if I had to say the secret sauce, it\u2019s that it makes you feel smart watching it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: Oh, interesting. Yes. I would say that people have said that to me. They were like, \u201cYeah, I feel like he thinks I\u2019m smart and I\u2019m part of the unraveling of this story because I\u2019m supposed to think and form conclusions and question things, and it\u2019s great.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: It gives the viewer agency. It\u2019s everything.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: Absolutely.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"433\" width=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Pluribus_Photo_010904.jpg\" alt=\"Pluribus\" class=\"wp-image-1237016358\"  \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: OK so does Zosia really love Carol or is Carol deluded? What\u2019s your take?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: I don\u2019t know. I do think Carol\u2019s long isolation that she got put in, plus the existential threat that it would last forever, If she didn\u2019t change or decide, \u201cI guess, I\u2019m just going to try to be in a relationship with her,\u201d she was just going to die alone on the couch watching Golden Girls, which if you have to die alone on the couch, watching Golden Girls is the way to go.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: I\u2019m OK with that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: I\u2019m just saying. This existential threat, which is another thing, I think many of us experienced in the pandemic. And I remember a therapist saying to me, \u201cIt\u2019s causing so much anxiety because there isn\u2019t an end in sight. We just don\u2019t know when this will be over. It isn\u2019t like, \u2018Can you make it 30 more days?&#8217;\u201d So, for Carol, I do think it is a voluntary delusion of sorts, but I also think that isolation broke her. And I think Vince and Adam Bernstein that directed the episode, when Zosia comes back and I hug her, I think we do see Carol very vulnerable for one of the first times since her wife\u2019s death.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, I don\u2019t know if Zosia is being manipulative or has any real feelings, or if there\u2019s a way to disentangle those because they do think this is an act of love, to change me. I\u2019m a little surprised by the number of people that have told me, \u201cI hope Zosia \u2026\u201d There\u2019s a lot of people that love Zosia and Carol together, which I love as well and I\u2019m so thrilled about that. But when they say, \u201cI hope that they get back together and stay together,\u201d I always say, \u201cDo you mean if Zosia becomes a real person and not part of the hive mind?\u201d They\u2019re like, \u201cNo, no, no, just as they are.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cDid you see the finale? I feel like there was a big line crossed with the stealing of the eggs thing. That\u2019s just me. I feel like it\u2019s a big flag.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But we had some very interesting late-night conversations with the crew on set. I remember at one point somebody said, \u201cAren\u2019t all relationships manipulative anyway? Isn\u2019t any flirting? Of course, you want something.\u201d And I\u2019m like, \u201cYeah, but hopefully you don\u2019t want to meld their brain. I hope that\u2019s not the goal.\u201d I\u2019m sure it\u2019s some people\u2019s goal.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: I mean, considering dating in L.A., it\u2019s possible.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: It\u2019s true. So, I think Carol has real feelings for Zosia, but it is born of a delusion to pretend, and you see it keep peeking through. She knows this is not a person with agency. You love me as much as you love that dog over there. You know what I mean? And you see her freak out when she\u2019s saying, \u201cI love you the same as Manousos.\u201d And when she starts asking about her partner and being jealous, what would be the point of jealousy at that point? She loves everybody. But I don\u2019t know. I think Carol, I mean, something snapped in her, obviously at the end.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: I feel like she could just make them give the eggs back? And although \u2018the others\u2019 aren\u2019t meant to lie, Zosia lied by omission.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: Yes. Vince would tell the others all the time, and Karolina in particular, that they are very lawyerly. They do not lie, but they are \u2026 You don\u2019t have to say \u201cmanipulative\u201d, but extremely specific about how they word things, even when she says she prefers to be a vegetarian. Yes, they prefer it, it\u2019s just not what they\u2019re doing.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"433\" width=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Pluribus_Photo_010906.jpg\" alt=\"Pluribus\" class=\"wp-image-1237016360\"  \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: So, could she just demand the eggs back?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: I don\u2019t think I could just demand the eggs back, and I did ask about that, because their imperative is to infect \u2014 the coarse way to say it. That\u2019s the argument that Carol keeps having with Zosia. \u201cIf you\u2019re saying I have agency and you love me, then don\u2019t do this.\u201d She\u2019s saying, \u201cIt\u2019s because I love you that I have to.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But also, Vince sometimes would talk about it. It\u2019s like parental love. He would say, \u201cManipulating your child into wearing a coat to go outside. Is that manipulation or is that love, if you know it\u2019s what\u2019s best for them, to get them to eat vegetables or whatever?\u201d And it\u2019s that built into their system that for the others, this is an act of love. And so, if loving people is the greatest thing, then you can\u2019t stop doing that. So, if she thinks stealing my eggs can eventually get my DNA to change me, then she\u2019s never going to stop.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: On Emmy nominations day, we talked a little bit about the atom bomb Carol orders in the Season 1 finale.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: I still don\u2019t know what it\u2019s doing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: But you did say the immortal words. \u201cI don\u2019t think it\u2019s an ADU for a mother-in-law.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: I did, which I don\u2019t know why I thought of that when I was talking to you because I was like, \u201cI don\u2019t know what it is, but it\u2019s just this giant crate in the driveway.\u201d And no, I have very few guesses about what he\u2019s going to do with that, but I don\u2019t think it\u2019s a mother-in-law ADU. I don\u2019t. I don\u2019t think she\u2019s renting it out. I don\u2019t know what she\u2019s going to do with the bomb. I really don\u2019t. And the good news was, playing Carol, I didn\u2019t need to know because I actually think she made a rash decision. We\u2019ll see, I\u2019ll get Episode 1 and I\u2019ll be a big fat liar and I\u2019ll find out that apparently, I had a whole plan and wrote it all out on a whiteboard, I don\u2019t know. But I thought in the moment, that Carol is very rash. We\u2019ve seen it. She\u2019s extremely impulsive and rash, and her trying to calm that part of her down didn\u2019t result in anything good. It just resulted in having a fake relationship with somebody that stole my eggs. So, I think she\u2019s so angry and importantly, terrified in that moment that this clock is ticking again, that she asked for the biggest threat that she can think of, but I don\u2019t think she\u2019s really figured out what to do with it. That\u2019s my thought.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DEADLINE: OK. Let\u2019s hope she doesn\u2019t end the world because I\u2019d like this to keep going on\u2026<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SEEHORN: Same, same. I really hope she doesn\u2019t end it for six or seven seasons. 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