{"id":857555,"date":"2026-09-23T08:12:10","date_gmt":"2026-09-23T08:12:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/857555\/"},"modified":"2026-09-23T08:12:10","modified_gmt":"2026-09-23T08:12:10","slug":"i-cant-do-it-counselling-students-dropping-out-due-to-financial-struggles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/857555\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;I can&#8217;t do it&#8217;: Counselling students dropping out due to financial struggles"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Counselling students say the financial burden of unpaid placements is a huge barrier for people trying to make it into the mental health workforce, and many are dropping out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">It&#8217;s causing concern about a shortage of counsellors, after <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/national\/programmes\/ninetonoon\/audio\/2019026426\/one-in-five-counsellors-eye-exit-or-scale-back\" class=\"underline-brand-hover visited:text-foreground-secondary hover:visited:text-foreground-primary\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a recent survey<\/a> indicated more than one in five professional counsellors are planning to retire, scale back their work, or leave the profession in the next two years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">A student who wanted to be known as James, was studying a Postgraduate Diploma in Counselling and Guidance at Massey University and said he&#8217;d seen many people leave.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;There are multiple people I know who have quit or decided that they won&#8217;t be doing the Masters next year, specifically because of the financial issues.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;There are a lot of people who are great and they would be fantastic counsellors, and they want to be counsellors, but they&#8217;re like, I can&#8217;t do it,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">James was planning to complete his Masters in counselling, which required a minimum of 200 hours of counselling practice with actual clients. He said this was unpaid work, which many of the students felt was unfair.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;I can understand if they&#8217;re like, hey, you&#8217;re not as trained as a person with the masters. We won&#8217;t pay you quite as much. But they won&#8217;t even pay the same as someone working at a dairy or&#8230; a newspaper run.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;It&#8217;s just setting us up to be closer to poverty. And it&#8217;s expected that we somehow show gratitude for the opportunity.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">A fellow student agreed, saying the expectation of unpaid training hours was a &#8220;big problem&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;There&#8217;s a minimum wage for training that is $19.16 per hour, and how can that not apply to our profession in the sense that we have already got a postgraduate diploma in that area and we&#8217;re doing the practical training.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;How are we not getting paid even the minimum wage for that?,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The student, who wanted to remain anonymous, said the course began with about 200 students attending the online lectures, but that&#8217;s dropped to about 30.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">She said one of the biggest challenges was being unable to take on paid work while studying.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;For me, that&#8217;s a huge barrier being a young mum with kids and having unpaid placements, and a huge student loan. I&#8217;m probably looking at like $100,000 debt by the end of it and no pay for 4 years.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The Association of Counsellors&#8217; 2026 Counselling Workforce Report found nearly a quarter of student respondents had difficulty finding a placement, and many said the full-time commitment placements require caused real financial strain, especially alongside childcare or other work.<\/p>\n<p>Growing waitlists for wh\u0101nau needing counselling<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Eugene Davis from the Association of Counsellors, said the demand for counsellors was huge &#8211; especially after the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/politics\/524473\/oranga-tamariki-defends-funding-cuts-service-providers-unconvinced\" class=\"underline-brand-hover visited:text-foreground-secondary hover:visited:text-foreground-primary\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">government cut hundreds of Oranga Tamariki contracts<\/a> in 2024.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;Waitlists are fully growing with other organisations&#8230; we&#8217;ve got wh\u0101nau waiting for counselling and that&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no practitioners, there&#8217;s no jobs for these practitioners to sort of receive that demand. Resourcing for councilling jobs is pretty scarce,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">He agreed unpaid placements were a barrier for some students, and said financial support varied greatly depending on the tertiary programme and placement provider.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Davis said there could be more understanding of students situations, especially as many were older students with families to provide for.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;I think it might be too black and white at times. I think those conversations need to be held intentionally at the start.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">He wanted to see more support from government and universities for counselling students, so that more completed their studies and made it into the workforce.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;Counselling as a profession doesn&#8217;t get the recognition it should.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;Counsellors are as highly trained and educated as psychologists, yet the profession keeps getting pushed down the priority list,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The 2026 Counselling Workforce Report found once students graduate, over 50 percent of them are most worried about finding a job, and about 46 percent are worried about paying for supervision, which is a mandatory cost for new counsellors.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;We&#8217;d like to see more thought given to the pathway from studying into paid work, placements included,&#8221; Davis said.<\/p>\n<p>Funding for some placements, but not others<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Counselling students said they felt hard done by that other similar mental health studies were financially supported, such as psychology internships.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Health New Zealand&#8217;s Executive Director People &amp; Culture, Health &amp; Safety Robyn Shearer, said they do fund psychology internships, but that it&#8217;s a different situation to counselling placements.<\/p>\n<p><img src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/4MRJTOS_image_crop_104018.jpeg\"  alt=\"\" width=\"614\" height=\"384\" class=\"ml:max-h-[50rem] max-w-full aspect-[16\/10] object-cover\"  decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" fetchpriority=\"auto\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Health NZ&#8217;s Robyn Shearer. (File photo)<\/p>\n<p class=\"text-foreground-secondary flex-shrink-0 ml-4\">RNZ Insight\/Karen Brown<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;Where interns hold a level of professional registration and can practise under supervision. These internships are distinct from student training placements that form part of a qualification programme,&#8221; Shearer said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">She said Health NZ knows placements could create financial pressure for some students, and were supporting a range of student placements across various services.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;The availability of counselling student placements can vary depending on service needs, supervision capacity, and training requirements.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;We remain committed to working with education providers and the sector to grow and strengthen the future mental health and addiction workforce.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">A Massey University spokesperson said the drop out rate was &#8220;very low&#8221; for Master of Counselling at Massey.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;If a student leaves the programme, it is usually because of exceptional personal circumstances, and they rejoin the programme in the following couple of years.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The spokesperson said Massey did not receive any funding to support students on placements.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;To date the Master of Counselling programme has not financially supported placements.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;The agreement between the placement provider and Massey is generally one that is a reciprocal arrangement with the agency or organisation being able to extend their counselling services with our student volunteers which in turn contributes to the students learning.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The university said it was very proud of the structure of its two counselling programmes, and the positive outcomes for students.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The Minister for Tertiary Education, Penny Simmonds, said universities and other tertiary institutions have a &#8220;high degree of institutional autonomy and academic freedom&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;This allows providers to make decisions about programme delivery, placements and financial support, including scholarships,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The minister said tertiary education providers determine qualification requirements, including whether placements were required and if they were paid.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;The government provides support to help reduce financial barriers to tertiary study, including tuition subsidies, student loans and student allowances.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;Students on unpaid placements may be eligible for a student allowance or student loan living costs. 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